sidcow Posted June 3, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted June 3, 2023 Something weird happened a minute ago. All the Man Ure fans called for a hand ball but it wasn't given. Don't know what the **** the ref is doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 4 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: I don’t agree with it. But it seems under the rules now if you have your hands up and the ball hits them it’s handball Its like they're either being obtuse on purpose or they've never played the game though Its also something that no fan wants (utd today obviously but in general) everyone outside of PGMOL thinks it's stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted June 3, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted June 3, 2023 I mean they're actually encouraging dangerous play. Your arms are a tool your body uses to stabilise itself. If they expect players to keep their arms down by their sides at all times players are going to injure themselves by landing awakardly. It's a complete nonsense. Also see players shielding their face and body when the ball is blasted at them. You take a ball full in the face you risk concussion or worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted June 3, 2023 Author VT Supporter Share Posted June 3, 2023 15 minutes ago, villa4europe said: Its like they're either being obtuse on purpose or they've never played the game though Its also something that no fan wants (utd today obviously but in general) everyone outside of PGMOL thinks it's stupid It is a tough rule to get right to be fair. I hated it when it said there had to be intent, because handballs are hardly ever ever intentional. But this certainly isn’t the solution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfTimePost Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 This should be scandalous but inevitably nothing will happen. There needs to be more transparency with the decisions and how they're made at the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, HalfTimePost said: This should be scandalous but inevitably nothing will happen. There needs to be more transparency with the decisions and how they're made at the time I was just reading about this, he should be sacked. Absolutely ridiculous that he feels he can talk freely about protecting his mate from potential grief rather than ref the match properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 We already knew this. When it's refs overseeing other refs in the same group, they don't want to show them up. It was even worse with the 1st VAR season and no screens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Dogg Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 43 minutes ago, Genie said: I was just reading about this, he should be sacked. Absolutely ridiculous that he feels he can talk freely about protecting his mate from potential grief rather than ref the match properly. Sacked from what? He is retired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, Mr_Dogg said: Sacked from what? He is retired. Ah, I didn’t realise. Explains the act of honesty then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mic09 Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 25 minutes ago, Mr_Dogg said: Sacked from what? He is retired. Doesn't he still work at VAR? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 9 minutes ago, Mic09 said: Doesn't he still work at VAR? No he works for sky now, unsurprisingly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 This has proved what goes on, it's not just Mike Dean, it's all the refs, just hoping this was known and the new guy has put a stop to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 25, 2023 Author VT Supporter Share Posted August 25, 2023 1 hour ago, HalfTimePost said: This should be scandalous but inevitably nothing will happen. There needs to be more transparency with the decisions and how they're made at the time If this is going on then it makes VAR completely pointless It's being used to back up referees 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanBalaban Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 Take that attitude and apply it to the Man U v Wolves game, and you can see why an injury time penalty isn't given at Old Trafford, which would have had consequences to the overall result. It's corrupt, but maybe not in the match-fixing kinda way. It's corrupt as it's there to protect the ref from additional heat from the managers of the big teams. Also, where's this audio that we're supposed to be able to hear after the game anyway? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadlyDirk Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 Where the quotes came from - it's quite an interesting watch.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 58 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: If this is going on then it makes VAR completely pointless It's being used to back up referees Applying this logic to decisions like the Konsa/Fernandes incident at VP and it's a huge scandal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 Was reading about this whole VAR Chelsea/Spurs yesterday. Sod the football, the result and what's a stake in these games, just look after your mate and protect him. *******! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villarule123 Posted August 25, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted August 25, 2023 This should be the final nail in the coffin for VAR but nothing will happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 What it proves is that there other politics at play in the decision making. We keep seeing bizarre things that make no sense, this is why. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted August 25, 2023 Share Posted August 25, 2023 4 hours ago, Stevo985 said: If this is going on then it makes VAR completely pointless It's being used to back up referees It’s always been an old boys club there to protect incompetence and maintain the status quo in the league. VAR will never work properly until they make it truly independent and sack these people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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