tinker Posted May 15, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted May 15, 2023 7 hours ago, bobzy said: Fans not knowing the laws of the game but getting outraged non-shocker. Shock as one idiot discovers another idiot online Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted May 15, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted May 15, 2023 Whilst we're on VAR why weren't we given a penalty against Tottingham? Clearly contact with Watkins, clearly zero touch of the ball. Why no penalty? Why no calling the ref over to the monitor for a better look? Barely a mention in the media but Kane boots Martinez in the ribs and falls over and the ref who ignored it is asked to go to the monitor? Why? Why no review of the Watkins incident? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Platt Posted May 15, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted May 15, 2023 1 minute ago, sidcow said: Whilst we're on VAR why weren't we given a penalty against Tottingham? Clearly contact with Watkins, clearly zero touch of the ball. Why no penalty? Why no calling the ref over to the monitor for a better look? Barely a mention in the media but Kane boots Martinez in the ribs and falls over and the ref who ignored it is asked to go to the monitor? Why? Why no review of the Watkins incident? Their player got the ball and it ricoched off Watkins and his momentum from winning the ball took him into Watkins. You could say Watkins had the last touch before the contact or you could say he had no control over it so no foul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted May 15, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted May 15, 2023 20 minutes ago, S-Platt said: Their player got the ball and it ricoched off Watkins and his momentum from winning the ball took him into Watkins. You could say Watkins had the last touch before the contact or you could say he had no control over it so no foul. Kane definitely had no control over the ball when he booted Martinez, he'd pushed it well wide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted May 15, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted May 15, 2023 Not sure what's funny @jim? Have you EVER seen them rocking the frames AFTER they've drawn the lines? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 1 minute ago, sidcow said: Kane definitely had no control over the ball when he booted Martinez, he'd pushed it well wide. He did that on purpose, played it well wide of martinez meaning no touch on the ball If he'd kicked it in the direction of his travel then martinez would have saved it, if he'd side stepped in the direction he kicked the ball then probably martinez doesn't touch him He knows exactly what he's doing 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, sidcow said: Not sure what's funny @jim? Have you EVER seen them rocking the frames AFTER they've drawn the lines? There was nothing wrong with either goal. They ran the frames back to when the ball was played. As they should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 Just now, sidcow said: Not sure what's funny @jim? Have you EVER seen them rocking the frames AFTER they've drawn the lines? They first froze the frame on the pass in to Salah. Jones was offside then, but he didn't get the ball then. They then went to the pass in to Jones, zoomed in on salah to get the frame when contact happened, froze it then zoomed back out , and he was onside then. They then rocked it back and forth, presumably to check if there was anything else interfering to call out. There wasn't, it was given. They get many many many decisions wrong, but this one was right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlack Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 (edited) The first incorrect VAR call they've released the audio for is for the penalty Toney won for Brentford against Bournemouth. With no big 6 team involved, there's no bias at play here, just pure incompetence. They watch the replay of the foul, but don't go back to the start of the play leading to the foul. If they had, they'd see Toney fouled the Bournemouth defender first, just before the Bournemouth player fouled Toney, and would overrule the penalty. They justify it by saying they're trying to get decisions made as quick as possible, but they don't want accuracy to be sacrificed so going forwards they would attempt to make sure all the relevant footage leading up to the foul is considered. It's a nothing incorrect call, that is easily glosssed over, and calls out the process rather than the people involved. Can't wait to see their justifications for the errors where people (and their bias/ corruption) are the fault. Edited May 16, 2023 by MrBlack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 Webb was on Talksport this morning with White and Jordon. He is such a brilliant talker and tries to blag with intellect. Met his match though. Jordon asks 'it's great showing us how it works, but how about showing us when it fails and your refs get it wrong". No real answer from Webb, so I guess we are just going to see the easy decisions. Wouldn't talk about the punch/ foul from the weekend either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 That rule they tweaked after gifting a goal for man City vs us... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumstopdogs Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 VAR my lord! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 It’s not a great comparison though. Without VAR linos don’t keep their flag down and offside is called anyway so. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YLN Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 9 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: It’s not a great comparison though. Without VAR linos don’t keep their flag down and offside is called anyway so. Especially relevant for Villa because we play so close to the edge with offsides and linesmen are bascially pointless now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 VAR going all in to make a game out of this FA cup final. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 It's made me irrationally angry considering I should have no sympathy for City. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted June 3, 2023 Author VT Supporter Share Posted June 3, 2023 It’s the rules that are the issue for that Grealish handball unfortunately. They’re stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted June 3, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted June 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: It’s the rules that are the issue for that Grealish handball unfortunately. They’re stupid i still fail to see how his arm is in an unatural position though...do they really expect him to have his arms behind his back in that scenario i'd be raging if that went against us 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted June 3, 2023 Author VT Supporter Share Posted June 3, 2023 6 minutes ago, tomav84 said: i still fail to see how his arm is in an unatural position though...do they really expect him to have his arms behind his back in that scenario i'd be raging if that went against us I don’t agree with it. But it seems under the rules now if you have your hands up and the ball hits them it’s handball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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