pacbuddies Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 1 hour ago, Demitri_C said: Like I said it really is pointless sacking him at this stage. It's better giving him until enD of season and of we are still this shit he has to go But I suspect he may be gone if he hasn't won in next 3 And if giving him until the end of the season ends in relegation that is acceptable to you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Dave J said: Glenn Hoddle, Eddie Howe or our very own David Platt with an elder statesman alongside him I'd be ok with any of these. Some might say Platt's ship has sailed but with the right man alongside him I think he could still cut the mustard. David Platt and Glenn Hoddle? And people think Bruce is a dinosaur. As for Howe, why the hell would he come, when he is touted for bigger things. Edited February 15, 2017 by mikeyp102 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 In the long term, a truly high quality manager would be most welcome but for now (if such an appointment isn't possible yet) a short term appointment would be worth a shot and I feel that there is a good chance that a few guys out there could do a much better job than Bruce has been doing. Someone like Rowett (who is available and well rated, seems a no nonsense type too) could give us the uplift and momentum we need to at least guarantee staying up - this rot needs halting because patience and sticking with Bruce is looking as though it will just result in relegation or a very low finish. Such an appointment may work out well, someone with determination and a point to prove would be interested & welcome and would find it difficult to resist due to the lure of managing such a prestigious club. If they do really well then they we will deserve to continue and would be rewarded. Things have gotten so bad now that a change absolutely has to be made, whether that's just someone who can get us a few results til the end of the season or a long term appointment. We are in a state and can't allow it to get worse without at least trying to reverse this alarming decline... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnbull Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 What incentive is there these days, for managers such as Bruce, to do a good job? They sign a decent contract with a "desperate" club, cock up, get sacked. pick up the compo, then get offers from other desperate clubs and the cycle continues. They stress they must go through trying to fit gardening leave in. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osmark86 Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 Can we go through three, maybe four managers in one season? Stay tuned for more. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 1 hour ago, mikeyp102 said: David Platt and Glenn Hoddle? And people think Bruce is a dinosaur. As for Howe, why the hell would he come, when he is touted for bigger things. Howe will be managing a team playing us next season if he continues his current run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astonaidan Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 Sometimes it seems that people just want British just for the sake of it, thats why Westwood got away with being muck for so long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troglodyte Posted February 15, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted February 15, 2017 I'm in the camp that says Bruce at least deserves until the end of the season. We need some stability more than anything right now, and at least he has a decent track record. Yes he's made some very questionable decisions recently but the man's not an idiot. However, even if he were to be sacked, many of the names tossed around on here are either totally ridiculous or utterly bizarre. Why in the name of all that is holy would Howe, Bielsa, Wagner (who turned down Wolfsburg not too long ago), Silva, Gallardo etc. want to come anywhere near us? All of them would be able to get jobs at clubs in far better positions. Then there are some suggesting that we go for the likes of Pardew, Redknapp, Platt, and so on. I'd rather take a drill to my own eyeballs than see any of that shower of shite manage my club. Others insist that the only successful managers are foreign. Their opponents cry that we need a British manager. Someone like Smith at Brentford, y'know, because they beat us (a rare feat only achieved by the most accomplished of tacticians) and he's a Villa fan too. So he must be good. I mean, he can organise his current team, so why not us? It's not like Bruce was able to do that effectively and lead his previous team to promotion only a matter of months ago... Other than that, there isn't really anyone unless you go for someone with a similar record and experience to Bruce, who would most likely have similar ideas and be entirely uninspiring, or we take a gamble on somebody (be that a more inexperienced manager from the Championship or lower, or someone from abroad) which could very easily backfire and see us set back to yet again continue in this death spiral for a further year or more. I can see why some would say they'd rather take the risk after all the dross that's been served up for so long, but we really do need a little patience first because one thing we haven't had since the start of that period is a sense of stability. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 If I hear, He needs more time, Bruce's record or Stability one more time I think I'll go f******* mental. Get the useless f***** out of here. F*** him off. Bruce Oooooooooouuuuuuut!!!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srsmithusa Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 8 minutes ago, Grasshopper said: If I hear, He needs more time, Bruce's record or Stability one more time I think I'll go f******* mental. Get the useless f***** out of here. F*** him off. Bruce Oooooooooouuuuuuut!!!!! You are so eloquent. I was trying really hard to think of some thoughtful way to express my thoughts about Bruce. "He deserves more time" Based on what? "He's got a successful record" At Villa? "We just need stability" How does being stably shite help anything? He needs to try a different formation" Rearranging deckchairs. While trying to be eloquent, your post showed up. I think I'll just start using f******* a lot more. (- 100%) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSV Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 13 minutes ago, Grasshopper said: If I hear, He needs more time, Bruce's record or Stability one more time I think I'll go f******* mental. Get the useless f***** out of here. F*** him off. Bruce Oooooooooouuuuuuut!!!!! fence sitter! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jas10 Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Stability...hearing that just reminds me of Mourinho's return to Chelsea, it's the one word he kept repeating over and over again upon his appointment...look how that turned out...I don't think fans are too unhappy with Conte... Sometimes striving for success requires a certain degree of conviction & ruthlessness... Everyone would love "stability" but what does that actually mean, in a practical sense? I, and I'm sure many others, would love for there to be stability but in the sense that we produce consistent performances, have a consistent playing style & system and consistently get results. That's the kind of stability I would like and I would be more than happy for the right management team to be in place that would be worthy of the time to make a start on and produce that stability and have a long and stable tenure. A team that would at least provide some shred of encouragement and enthusiasm that has been missing for an age... The stability I do not want is, well, what's happening now really. The stability of this season has been consistently shit performances, consistently shit results and a consistent lack of a playing style & system. No thank you... We are all over the place and Bruce is lost, end it now before it gets even worse and give someone better suited a chance to turn things round otherwise it will be too late and if we end up having to bring in someone just to try & save us from relegation they won't have time to even do that! I don't see how anyone can, with any certainty, state or fully believe that performances and results will improve and that we will ever actually look like getting a win at this rate. The decline is alarming and it has just been a constant stream of low points, with the complete absence of any high points, under Bruce. End it now before it's too late, what a disaster... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 5 hours ago, srsmithusa said: You are so eloquent. I was trying really hard to think of some thoughtful way to express my thoughts about Bruce. "He deserves more time" Based on what? "He's got a successful record" At Villa? "We just need stability" How does being stably shite help anything? He needs to try a different formation" Rearranging deckchairs. While trying to be eloquent, your post showed up. I think I'll just start using f******* a lot more. (- 100%) I'm a Brummie We just have it Cor'elp'eet liyk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 3 hours ago, Jas10 said: Stability...hearing that just reminds me of Mourinho's return to Chelsea, it's the one word he kept repeating over and over again upon his appointment...look how that turned out...I don't think fans are too unhappy with Conte... Sometimes striving for success requires a certain degree of conviction & ruthlessness... Everyone would love "stability" but what does that actually mean, in a practical sense? I, and I'm sure many others, would love for there to be stability but in the sense that we produce consistent performances, have a consistent playing style & system and consistently get results. That's the kind of stability I would like and I would be more than happy for the right management team to be in place that would be worthy of the time to make a start on and produce that stability and have a long and stable tenure. A team that would at least provide some shred of encouragement and enthusiasm that has been missing for an age... The stability I do not want is, well, what's happening now really. The stability of this season has been consistently shit performances, consistently shit results and a consistent lack of a playing style & system. No thank you... We are all over the place and Bruce is lost, end it now before it gets even worse and give someone better suited a chance to turn things round otherwise it will be too late and if we end up having to bring in someone just to try & save us from relegation they won't have time to even do that! I don't see how anyone can, with any certainty, state or fully believe that performances and results will improve and that we will ever actually look like getting a win at this rate. The decline is alarming and it has just been a constant stream of low points, with the complete absence of any high points, under Bruce. End it now before it's too late, what a disaster... 100% 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villarocker Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 7 minutes ago, Grasshopper said: I'm a Brummie We just have it Cor'elp'eet liyk That's not Brummie dude, that's yam yam! Maybe you're living too close to the Newton Road side of Great Barr? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 21 minutes ago, villarocker said: That's not Brummie dude, that's yam yam! Maybe you're living too close to the Newton Road side of Great Barr? No I'm from the rough soyid Aldridge Road soyid Newton Roaders are Puss**s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 (edited) No'war'oi'mean'liyke Edited February 16, 2017 by Grasshopper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Liberte, Egalite, Stabilite! It's the famous French motto. The kind of thing they shout out just before important battles, like Agincourt, Waterloo and Trafalgar. Never did them any good either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan_of_oz Posted February 16, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted February 16, 2017 6 hours ago, Grasshopper said: If I hear, He needs more time, Bruce's record or Stability one more time I think I'll go f******* mental. Get the useless f***** out of here. F*** him off. Bruce Oooooooooouuuuuuut!!!!! Cos these posts arent repititive at all........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 1 minute ago, Villan_of_oz said: Cos these posts arent repititive at all........ G'day sometimes the truth hurts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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