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You use it a reason why we could do better, where I use it a the winning spell as a reason it wont happen again. Anyways you ppg is not play off position either way, so your point makes no sense

Well his ppg for game means we dont have a play off position. Im merely stating take away the 8 games as a example to his stating "even with christmas" as a reason why we would make play offs. The 8 games come at a time when a lot of teams have nothing to play for. You can live in denial about this if you want

Hence why I said pretty much brah, maybe you should read a little. How long do you think a season is mind? He wasnt in charge for 6 weeks at the start but has been for 6 much since, uh ok dude

Well you want to ignore that January spell, why would we no ignore the winning spell at the end of the season when a lot of teams are on the beach. You keep saying play off form, when 72 points isnt play off form. Your point has no reason at all tbh other than state we will miss the play offs next season if we get the same ppg again

Just saw us linked to Boyd, Im sure Im not alone in praying that doesnt happen. I like him as a player but hes nearly 32

Summer 2016, before that we tweeted Lerner

I do understand, in the same way that you use it as a excuse you fail to comprehend we also had a 8 wins when play offs were out of reach against teams who season was finished. Take away the 8 wins and do we have play off ppg for example. No

Actually I was wrong about Newcastle they brought in 12 players last summer. So yeah that we had new signings excuse is just sad, but sure if ye want to peddle it out as a defence of a manager who clearly has failed off with ye

You included it as a sidenote. You ignored the fact that we were **** when missing one, yes one player. Quality manager that he is, surely he should have been able to cope

I havent seen that as the case, I personally have said I hope he proves me wrong. 100%, I will happily eat humble pie if he brings us up next year, I dont even want him to win the league just promotion

I like Bruce, I just dont rate him as a manager. To keep him at this stage is equally weak reasoning. You ignore the fact that without Kodija we were ****. Even with that settled squad excuse we were **** without Kodija. Look at Newcastle they made a raft of changes to there team, they didnt do so badly 7 starters I think they brought in. But heck lets ignore that, Villa signed 9 but thats including De Laet and Tshibola who were for different reasons never got a chance in the team. So 7 for each team

Really there has been many, it says more about you than people giving the logical reasons

My mind is not changing as Ive had pretty much a full season of Bruce. I like the rest of ye thought he might be a good appointment and I agree 100% he steadied the ship bu thats all I see from Bruce mid table ball with a team capable of more. To only look at the last couple of months is just not a great way of thinking. If Kodija hadnt been available say for those last 2 months we wouldnt have got more than 2 wins, how is it a sign of a good manager to have to rely on one player. You see us out the other side, I see us getting lucky for a spell, based on the fact the stats havent changed from the games, were still getting dominated and were still playing hoofball and even keeping clean sheets etc google some of the highlights and see how they easily could have gone the other way

Well I think its weak reasoning and selective thinking. That christmas spell is constantly used a reason as why wed do better, when that was the one time he had to do without Kodija and failed epically

Yes I think losing one player is a weak excuse. Are you completely resistant to the fact that Bruces has failed in his one month without that player, whats funny is ye use Kodija as a reason for January failure while ignoring he pretty much bailed us out constantly on the winning streak. I fear to think had we not had the big man for this season. I think were done, a great way to leave a conversation you know youve lost

Hogan, it autocorrect sorry No you used January and Kodija as reasons, for me they are weak reasons, selective thinking. If thats not what your saying I apologize thats how I read it

Ok so Im going to use your point about Kodija, so your saying the fact one player wasnt available is reason enough for him to have a crap month. That is a weak defence. What about the results we had when he took over with the January signings. All the January run and recent run show is that Kodija has been bailing out Bruce. How did he set the team up when the big man went off against Burton. High **** balls to Horgan

But we still had a decent squad at the time, there was decent results when he took over. Why do we ignore them for example. You see there is no logic being applied in a lot of peoples post. Its bullshit using the fact we didnt have Kodija, other teams didnt have players for a spell a good manager finds a way, doesnt just check out for the month while he was gone. If anything January really shows Bruce for what he is. The fact that one player gone and he cant win

Why is our horrible form in January over looked, but our winning streak hyped up. He was the manager for both spells. Theres a awful amount of selective thinking

Why is it way worse, its more telling where to be at the end of the season than the first few games where a team is gelling, the fact that were now further away with a settled teams shows a manager that isnt up the level needed. Your arguments have zero logic. As for your last comment, well so far Ive been called a troll, stated that I dont support the team all because I think Bruce is a terrible manager, explain how that is constructive debate.

Ive clearly said so, multiple times. So far you called fans idiots and posted a image of a strawman, if theres a clearer sign of someone with nothing to add thats it buddy

So pretty much just confirming you have no solid argument against anything I said. Thanks for that brah

This only shows you have nothing proper to add to the conversation dude, but yeah carry on

Hahaha ah stop buddy, we have fallen even further away from the playoffs but you still argue. You wont get into a long argument as your argument has no foundation. You would think a top manager at this level would have got us closer to the play offs after spending what he did in January instead of falling further back. Every criticism I have of Bruce has been validated by the stats. A lucky winning streak when we were out of the playoffs means nothing to me.

Oh I know Im right, Ive been called a troll for now agreeing with the sheep. So yeah I know where I stand, in December if it turns out were tearing away with the championship and playing decent football, Ill hold my hands up and 100% apologize for wanting him gone. Will the Bruce fanatics do the same if were languishing in mid table, I doubt it, more likely will still be blaming RDM and Sherwood and saying he just needs a few more quality signings