honest_bertie Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 Don't know who we should get in but I can't see the harm in giving dean smith a try. We gone all other options, why not have a punt on him. Bruce needs to go now, no point delaying the inevitable and might as well start the next rebuild now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andym Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 Goals win you games in this league, but this seems to have escaped Bruce despite having a wealth of attacking talent (compared to most of this league) at his disposal. Outside the top 2 theres not many of the better teams who have conceded less than a goal a game, but it doesn't matter, because they just go and score one more than the opposition. 1 shot on target tonight, and thats now a grand total of 20 goals in 21 league games under Bruce. Only Wigan and Rotherham have scored the same or less. Unacceptable. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osmark86 Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 6 minutes ago, honest_bertie said: Don't know who we should get in but I can't see the harm in giving dean smith a try. We gone all other options, why not have a punt on him. Bruce needs to go now, no point delaying the inevitable and might as well start the next rebuild now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 I look forward to his version of the false No.9 system on Saturday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 What can he try next? Running out of ideas. Will be just repeat the same ones on a loop? Back to 3 at the back in a few weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.Bear Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 Seriously, what have we done to deserve the last 5-6 years? Not to feel sorry for ourselves but damn, its just cruel what we've been through. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osmark86 Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, R.Bear said: Seriously, what have we done to deserve the last 5-6 years? Not to feel sorry for ourselves but damn, its just cruel what we've been through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 16 minutes ago, Zatman said: I look forward to his version of the false No.9 system on Saturday What with no striker we may as well not use one under Bruce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 Steve Bruce said that we wouldn't bring anyone in during the window that wouldn't strengthen us. I don't want to write out a long list of the new players and rate them against who they replaced, but I'm sure most people would agree that the team isn't stronger now than it was on December 31st. That doesn't mean that the players bought are bad players but that they haven't strengthened the team. The reason for this in my opinion, is that we don't set up to use the players we have to our best advantage. We swapped one weak goal keeper for another and did nothing to strengthen the centre of the defence but then set up defensively. We don't play a style that plays through the midfield despite buying a new midfield, some of whom are of questionable quality. And we sold a big bloke up front and decided to hoof it. At Sunderland Steve Bruce bought 30 players in 2 and a half years. The main argument for keeping him on is stability. What's stable about turning over 30 players in 2 and a half years?? Or for that matter changing the left back very game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 How can anyone now defend what is completely indefensible? I hate the idea of changing our manager but I have no idea what else we can do. I rate Bruce as a manager but he just looks totally out of his depth and bereft of any ideas. The bit that really worries me is the total absence of any sort of Plan B coupled with his patent inability to instil any sort of confidence or backbone in the players. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, Harry said: How can anyone now defend what is completely indefensible? I hate the idea of changing our manager but I have no idea what else we can do. I rate Bruce as a manager but he just looks totally out of his depth and bereft of any ideas. The bit that really worries me is the total absence of any sort of Plan B coupled with his patent inability to instil any sort of confidence or backbone in the players. I think it's unfair to say we haven't got a plan B, we're on at least plan G! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USA_Villa Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 Just go and get Dean Smith. Brentford played us off the park with a younger team and less talent. We need exactly what he's brought to Brentford. http://talksport.com/football/brentford-manager-dean-smith-and-assistant-richard-okelly-sign-one-year-contract-extensions Might cost a few quid though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 1 minute ago, DaveAV1 said: I think it's unfair to say we haven't got a plan B, we're on at least plan G! And none of them work and nor should one plan being tested to destruction in one game without any attempt to change it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted February 20, 2017 Share Posted February 20, 2017 Mentally there is something seriously wrong at this club, so wrong that the same problems persist despite change of owners, managers and players. I'm not defending Bruce at all and am probably leaning more towards getting rid than keeping but the depressing thing is we're likely going to be seeing the same shameful weakness and general losing attitude regardless of who is manager. I don't know how we get out of this. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciggiesnbeer Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 12 minutes ago, Mantis said: Mentally there is something seriously wrong at this club, so wrong that the same problems persist despite change of owners, managers and players. I'm not defending Bruce at all and am probably leaning more towards getting rid than keeping but the depressing thing is we're likely going to be seeing the same shameful weakness and general losing attitude regardless of who is manager. I don't know how we get out of this. The only thing left to change is the fans. Bruce & the team are working hard to drive away as many of the current ones as they can, so its certainly possible. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevonIsAPlaceOnEarth Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 We are cursed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 If we press the panic button as I said before I can see the board pleading for Sir Brian to help us over the line this season and evaluate in the summer. Providing Brian would want to do it- he might be happily retired and stress free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dappadan Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Stick with for me. If our players could finish we would have a lot more points. Blame lies with them for me at the minute. The goals we are conceding are farcical and the finishing abysmal but we need to give someone time. I do however see the other side and he needs to stop trying to shoehorn players into wrong positions just to have them on the pitch. Get Kodjia up front with Adomah and Green/Grealish on the wings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Definitely stick for me. Get rid and we will go down IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted February 21, 2017 Share Posted February 21, 2017 Why stick. We are not getting good goal scoring chances because of the way Bruce sets us up. If we don't score goals we risk going down. It's not rocket science. Worst losing streak since 1974. How anyone defends Bruce still is beyond me 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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