Jareth Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 Just now, AntrimBlack said: I keep seeing this, but there is no reason to think he will suddenly change his whole mindset, and use the youngsters, which he has not done at any time during his tenure, even when the team was crying out for fresh blood. He won't have any choice, we need to shift at least 15 players this summer - sounds a lot but it's standard in the championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 47 minutes ago, TRO said: Relentless. No doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 5 minutes ago, AntrimBlack said: I keep seeing this, but there is no reason to think he will suddenly change his whole mindset, and use the youngsters, which he has not done at any time during his tenure, even when the team was crying out for fresh blood. Not sure Jack Grealish will agree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 2 hours ago, mattyvilla said: In reality we can probably no longer match Steve Bruce's ambitions , i think he will walk. This post caught my eye. His ambitions now will be to join the manager's `go to ' rota with Pulis etc. Best he will ever be able to do now. Biggest job he ever had, Matty, he said so himself, and he failed miserably. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 1 minute ago, TRO said: Not sure Jack Grealish will agree with you. That was a no-brainer, Tro, and one swallow does not make a summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sne Posted June 8, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 8, 2018 Grealish turns 23 in a few months, hardly a youngster in football terms. I know anyone under 27 is considered young and promising at Villa but he's hardly a kid is he. Keep paying Bruce top dollars to be a totally different manager just because he's already here is just stupid. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vreitti Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 I'm so happy the financial situation got "sorted", as we can now look forward to another 1800+ pages of mind numbing debate about Bruce... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 50 minutes ago, AntrimBlack said: That was a no-brainer, Tro, and one swallow does not make a summer. I think Jack’s developing maturity and with it improved performances are to do with a) the fact he’s actually older and most of us catch on eventually to the realities of life and b) I believe John Terry had a very positive effect. Sort of a big brother figure. That doesn’t ignore Steve Bruce I’m sure he has a maturing influence on him too and definitely believed in him. But as far as player development is concerned his career isn’t littered with success on that front. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 Grealish has hit his peak here and has to go if he cares about his career. Far too good for this level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 3 hours ago, mattyvilla said: In reality we can probably no longer match Steve Bruce's ambitions , i think he will walk. It's a shame that Steve Bruce could not match our ambitions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holteend1982 Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 1 hour ago, AntrimBlack said: This post caught my eye. His ambitions now will be to join the manager's `go to ' rota with Pulis etc. Best he will ever be able to do now. Biggest job he ever had, Matty, he said so himself, and he failed miserably. Failed miserably lol Failing miserably would have been getting relegated 1st season like what we was heading for when he came in but he turned it around. Then you could say failing miserably would have been mid table finish with no push for play offs. We got to a play off final and lost by 1 goal, that's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 4 minutes ago, vreitti said: I'm so happy the financial situation got "sorted", as we can now look forward to another 1800+ pages of mind numbing debate about Bruce... In the Bruce thread? Madness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srsmithusa Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 It will be interesting to see what happens next week. I suspect Bruce will leave on mutual agreement. I think that would be best for him and for us. If he stays it won't be the end of the club. We're too big for any manager to destroy our existence. But he's not the right man for a long-term, grass roots, build up. He'll keep us stable at a level a few places below where we were this year. But it will just be delaying the complete rebuild we need. I don't dislike the man. I just think he's stuck in an out-of-phase footballing mindset and I want something better than that for our club. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareth Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 1 minute ago, srsmithusa said: It will be interesting to see what happens next week. I suspect Bruce will leave on mutual agreement. I think that would be best for him and for us. Not sure he's going anywhere! Steve Bruce is confident he can guide Aston Villa back to the Premier League - despite the club's perilous financial position. http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11677/11397525/steve-bruce-determined-to-send-aston-villa-back-to-premier-league 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 It's amazing how I've gone from wanting Bruce out to not actually giving a shit until Xia sells the club, as this is the priority for me. This is far more important than what the manager does. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 47 minutes ago, holteend1982 said: Failed miserably lol Failing miserably would have been getting relegated 1st season like what we was heading for when he came in but he turned it around. Then you could say failing miserably would have been mid table finish with no push for play offs. We got to a play off final and lost by 1 goal, that's it. The promotion expert, given time for 2 shots at promotion, 3 windows, a squad most CH clubs could only dream of? Nah, I will stick with failed miserably. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 Out of interest does anyone know where we'd have finished if taking into account matches played after Steve Agnew joined? I may be wrong but I thought that our season turned around roughly when he came. I'm just about in favour or remaining with the status quo but just wanted to double check that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, sharkyvilla said: Out of interest does anyone know where we'd have finished if taking into account matches played after Steve Agnew joined? I may be wrong but I thought that our season turned around roughly when he came. I'm just about in favour or remaining with the status quo but just wanted to double check that. May have been a factor but I think it’ more to do with jack returning around the same time. It’s such a shame we didn’t have him all season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodders Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 I'm quite glad he's staying I think. Well, until he's had that budget breakdown meeting anyway! We see him leaving in a fast car on Monday evening, we'll know it's bad! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 19 minutes ago, AntrimBlack said: The promotion expert, given time for 2 shots at promotion, 3 windows, a squad most CH clubs could only dream of? Nah, I will stick with failed miserably. The promotion expert - I doubt he calls himself this but his record speaks for itself, you can argue it all you want but it's a fact that until this season (Warnock) he had achieved the most promotions from this division of any Manager, fact. Failed miserably - no, just no. By yours and others standards he may have failed, but miserably? Get a grip man. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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