lexicon Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 He's also just been surrounded by players he doesn't know and has never played with before. Needs time. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blunther Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 42 minutes ago, rodders0223 said: No it is not horseshit at all. Watch the game. Watch Hogan running and getting nothing. Watch thr fullbacks come up to support him and get nothing. Watch how many times he loses the ball when we could just recycle the play. Watch how many times he takes a shot when he could easily play someone in and get it back. We don't score goals and we don't create chances from open play because we don't move the **** ball in the final third. It is so easy to defend against. I did watch the game (sadly) and I didn't see all these great runs. I saw hogan running next to or towards defenders a fair bit - not his fault as he didn't have much support, but if a pass ain't on, it ain't on. But whatever, let's get on his back and drive him out of the club, there are plenty more strikers we can buy and shout abuse at after all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blunther Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Not directed at you specifically Rodders by the way. Just being surrounded by idiots who seem to go to the match purely to shout abuse at our own players is taking its toll. Starting to consider not bothering next season for the first time in god knows how long. The fans are the one constant at this club over the last couple of years, and as a unit we seem to be a massively negative influence on the club. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DCJonah Posted February 12, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted February 12, 2017 If we're going to turn on a guy who scores 1 in 2, works hard all game and clearly loves playing for the club then we really are ****. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hornso Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 13 hours ago, DCJonah said: If we're going to turn on a guy who scores 1 in 2, works hard all game and clearly loves playing for the club then we really are ****. "We're not fickle..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSV Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 I think hes better suited to a wide position in a 433. Doesnt appear to have the ability to be a striker and hold up the play. Hes better running at players. Hogan through the middle Kodja and Adomah/Green outwide is the way to go. Think we will fail if we switch to a 442. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 On 2/12/2017 at 12:26, blunther said: Not directed at you specifically Rodders by the way. Just being surrounded by idiots who seem to go to the match purely to shout abuse at our own players is taking its toll. Starting to consider not bothering next season for the first time in god knows how long. The fans are the one constant at this club over the last couple of years, and as a unit we seem to be a massively negative influence on the club. I do hate that any pass that isn't forward is constantly groaned at. It doesn't help and if players played it forward all the time we'd end up with about 30% possession and get hammered every week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted February 13, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted February 13, 2017 27 minutes ago, kurtsimonw said: I do hate that any pass that isn't forward is constantly groaned at. It doesn't help and if players played it forward all the time we'd end up with about 30% possession and get hammered every week. It's been like that for years. It's **** moronic to be honest. Drives me mad at the games. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 1 minute ago, Stevo985 said: It's been like that for years. It's **** moronic to be honest. Drives me mad at the games. It's one reason I moved out of the Holte. Atmosphere can be cracking at times, but it's been negative for too long and it just makes me uncomfortable hearing the abuse all the time. It got to the point where I was going to end up saying something to someone and I'd just rather not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted February 13, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted February 13, 2017 Just now, kurtsimonw said: It's one reason I moved out of the Holte. Atmosphere can be cracking at times, but it's been negative for too long and it just makes me uncomfortable hearing the abuse all the time. It got to the point where I was going to end up saying something to someone and I'd just rather not. Yep, It's my first season as a ST holder and I'm already pondering moving out of the Holte for next season. Even when we were winning it was **** depressing because the people around me are so negative. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 4 hours ago, Stevo985 said: Yep, It's my first season as a ST holder and I'm already pondering moving out of the Holte for next season. Even when we were winning it was **** depressing because the people around me are so negative. Join my in the Doug Ellis and have the lads talking about Jamie Oliver's cooking programme and arriving 10 minutes after kick off and leaving 20 minutes before full time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 5 hours ago, rodders0223 said: Join my in the Doug Ellis and have the lads talking about Jamie Oliver's cooking programme and arriving 10 minutes after kick off and leaving 20 minutes before full time. Did they communicate that using body language? Because I was sat in the Upper Doug and it was so quiet, I could have sworn no one so much as said a word. I joined in a chant at one point, you should have seen the looks I got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osmark86 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 On 2/12/2017 at 13:47, DCJonah said: If we're going to turn on a guy who scores 1 in 2, works hard all game and clearly loves playing for the club then we really are ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 10 hours ago, Stevo985 said: Yep, It's my first season as a ST holder and I'm already pondering moving out of the Holte for next season. Even when we were winning it was **** depressing because the people around me are so negative. Not that I'm sat in the holte or even a ST holder but you can't believe that negative opinions at this stage are wrong. Whether you like to hear opinions that are negative or not, I don't believe that you genuinely feel there is much, if anything to be positive about. I mean, about the only positive this season as it stands in the grand scheme of things, is that we're not in a relegation battle...... not that I would consider that a positive really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted February 14, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted February 14, 2017 (edited) 8 hours ago, Woodytom said: Not that I'm sat in the holte or even a ST holder but you can't believe that negative opinions at this stage are wrong. Whether you like to hear opinions that are negative or not, I don't believe that you genuinely feel there is much, if anything to be positive about. I mean, about the only positive this season as it stands in the grand scheme of things, is that we're not in a relegation battle...... not that I would consider that a positive really. I haven't said anything is right or wrong. What I've said is being sat next to a group of blokes who spend 90 minutes shouting and moaning about every single kick of the ball is really **** annoying. Edited February 14, 2017 by Stevo985 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCDAN Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 19 hours ago, Stevo985 said: Yep, It's my first season as a ST holder and I'm already pondering moving out of the Holte for next season. Even when we were winning it was **** depressing because the people around me are so negative. It might seem excessive but can you honestly blame them? 7 years and counting pretty much of absolute tripe week after week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 We'd be in the relegation zone without him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 **** off. Slump your shoulders a bit more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 Really poor tonight. Why does he insist with attempting the spectacular when he has time to bring it down or play it back across. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 I think I can pinpoint the moment tonight where he gave up and was just trying.to score a nice goal to make himself feel good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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