Dr_Pangloss Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 (edited) If you don't have the awareness and presence of mind to play the right pass at the right time, but rather brainlessly opt to shoot from stupid positions at 27 years old, then you are never going to have it. Quite often his play and decision making on the ball screws us up royally, slowing down or even breaking up our own attacks. Whilst he's athletically gifted, a good finisher and his unpredictability at times working in our favour he is so badly flawed it's untrue. I wouldn't at all be bothered if he's not here next season, we need smarter, more direct and clinical players up front (like Hogan). There's no chance this guy will ever do it in the premier league but perhaps he could have a place in a weaker top flight European league. Edited February 5, 2017 by Dr_Pangloss 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farlz Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 (edited) Last night was the first time he genuinely annoyed me but without his goals we'd be looking at back to back relegations. Edited February 5, 2017 by Farlz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Must.learn.to.pass if he achieves that, I can really see the kodjia/hogan partnership flourishing with goals aplenty for each of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 21 minutes ago, kurtsimonw said: Kodjia has 10, not 20. yes sorry I blame the bbc giving me wrong information Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Kodjia frustrated me yesterday but Chester/elphick finish their chances and Johnstone makes a basic save and we're probably all praising him for yet another goal. There are flaws to his game, it's why he's in the championship. But he's been key for us this season. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PompeyVillan Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Without Jimmy Danger's moments of individual brilliance we'd never score. His selfishness sometimes leads to bad decisions. But then again, shooting from 30 yards isn't a bad decision if it goes in, or someone nicks a rebound. I think he and Hogan can be pretty lethal but only if Kodjia plays more as a strike partner than an individual. Otherwise he'll score the odd individual effort in part because Hogan seems to smart runs to take defenders sway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 14 minutes ago, Farlz said: Last night was the first time he genuinely annoyed me but without his goals we'd be looking at back to back relegations. But how many goals would the team have scored without him? I think its to simplistic to think that without Kodjia we would have scored 10 goals less. If he passed the ball we could even have 10 goals more. He infuriated McCormack and there were signs last night that he is already infuriating Hogan. Whats the point spending big on Hogan if the bloke he plays with won't pass him the ball? I've no doubt that unless kodjia learns to pass to Hogan, he will simply lose his place to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 6 minutes ago, DCJonah said: Kodjia frustrated me yesterday but Chester/elphick finish their chances and Johnstone makes a basic save and we're probably all praising him for yet another goal. There are flaws to his game, it's why he's in the championship. But he's been key for us this season. I don't disagree with that. I think that his ability to create things for himself was key because we had no one that could create for him. We potentially now do so that part of his game is not as important to us as it once was, we now need him to buy into the idea of a team. If he can't work within one, he will find himself out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 15 minutes ago, PaulC said: yes sorry I blame the bbc giving me wrong information Wouldn't you have noticed if a Villa player would have scored 20 league goals by Feb? When was the last time we had a striker do that for us? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Thanks for the goals Jonathan but actually, the amount of money we paid for you is frightening. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farlz Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 9 minutes ago, av1 said: But how many goals would the team have scored without him? I think its to simplistic to think that without Kodjia we would have scored 10 goals less. If he passed the ball we could even have 10 goals more. He infuriated McCormack and there were signs last night that he is already infuriating Hogan. Whats the point spending big on Hogan if the bloke he plays with won't pass him the ball? I've no doubt that unless kodjia learns to pass to Hogan, he will simply lose his place to him. I think him going away to AFCON proved the team wouldn't have done better without him. Before we signed Hogan, Hourihane and Lansbury there wasn't goals in our team at all without Kodjia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 6 minutes ago, Dr_Pangloss said: Wouldn't you have noticed if a Villa player would have scored 20 league goals by Feb? When was the last time we had a striker do that for us? lol It said he had scored 10 goals for Bristol this season. I guess I should have realised that he couldn't have done that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 2 minutes ago, Farlz said: I think him going away to AFCON proved the team wouldn't have done better without him. Before we signed Hogan, Hourihane and Lansbury there wasn't goals in our team at all without Kodjia. I agree, I've covered that in a few posts. The team was so poor that we needed someone like him that could create for himself. My point is that with Hogan, Lansbury, Hourihane etc, that skill set could prove to be more of a handicap than a help. 9 minutes ago, av1 said: I don't disagree with that. I think that his ability to create things for himself was key because we had no one that could create for him. We potentially now do so that part of his game is not as important to us as it once was, we now need him to buy into the idea of a team. If he can't work within one, he will find himself out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 2 minutes ago, PaulC said: It said he had scored 10 goals for Bristol this season. I guess I should have realised that he couldn't have done that. I've not checked, but could they have meant 20 goals in the calendar year 2016? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 36 minutes ago, av1 said: I agree, I've covered that in a few posts. The team was so poor that we needed someone like him that could create for himself. My point is that with Hogan, Lansbury, Hourihane etc, that skill set could prove to be more of a handicap than a help. I think you make some good points here, but again, the notion that he might have changed his style of play on a dime - within the 90 minutes of his new partner's debut! - is probably very ambitious. You're right with what he needs to do. But as with everything, give it time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 One Greedy word removed... Close the thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Would rather have Gestede tbfh and just lump balls forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lerner's Driver Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 4 minutes ago, rodders0223 said: Would rather have Gestede tbfh and just lump balls forward. That's a joke. You are joking, right? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyp Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 5 hours ago, Dr_Pangloss said: If you don't have the awareness and presence of mind to play the right pass at the right time, but rather brainlessly opt to shoot from stupid positions at 27 years old, then you are never going to have it. Quite often his play and decision making on the ball screws us up royally, slowing down or even breaking up our own attacks. Whilst he's athletically gifted, a good finisher and his unpredictability at times working in our favour he is so badly flawed it's untrue. I wouldn't at all be bothered if he's not here next season, we need smarter, more direct and clinical players up front (like Hogan). There's no chance this guy will ever do it in the premier league but perhaps he could have a place in a weaker top flight European league. Quality post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 (edited) That long range shot he hit from about 40 yards was pathetic when hogan has got in a great position ahead of him . He really needs to pass when players are in better positions rather than go for glory. cut our the fancy tricks which usually lose possession and become a team player and we will be much better for it . Edited February 5, 2017 by Eastie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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