bobzy Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 2 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: Strongly disagree. All 3 have Championship experience, have been promoted and have played at PL level when/if we go back up. Championship experience. Is that really a thing? It's an inferior league to the one above. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post markavfc40 Posted August 11, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted August 11, 2016 (edited) 10 minutes ago, bobzy said: We're basically talking about a guy who can't get a game under one of the most defensive-minded managers around. For at least £7m. I think you need to put it into perspective. We recently got 5 mill for a centre back that struggled to get into one of the worst defences in the Prem League era. Pulis doesn't seem to fancy him for some reason although he liked him enough to splash 8 mill on him just a year ago. For the level we are competing at he is more than good enough, as he showed with Hull, and he is an upgrade on all but one of our current central defenders. This is a good signing. Edited August 11, 2016 by markavfc40 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 Just now, bobzy said: Championship experience. Is that really a thing? It's an inferior league to the one above. its what the Dr. said in his tweet we are looking at Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 Just now, bobzy said: Championship experience. Is that really a thing? It's an inferior league to the one above. Players that have been there, done that and won games down here. We definitely need it. Our players look scared shitless when we concede. We're a championship club. We need players who have performed at a good level down here. Were you this negative about McCormack out of interest? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 just hope it turns out better than the Curtis Davies Deal.....not sure I like buying players off the Baggies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 Just now, TRO said: just hope it turns out better than the Curtis Davies Deal.....not sure I like buying players off the Baggies Davies deal was a bargain compared to Lescott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 1 minute ago, Zatman said: its what the Dr. said in his tweet we are looking at And Premier League experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 14 minutes ago, bobzy said: I struggle to believe that anyone (of us VT folk) paid particular attention to him at Hull. We're basically talking about a guy who can't get a game under one of the most defensive-minded managers around. For at least £7m. Yet weirdly people who have seen him play think he's decent. Go figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dodgyknees Posted August 11, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted August 11, 2016 He can't get a game because he isn't 45ft tall with clubs for feet. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8pints Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 He seems like a good centre half but most importantly seems to be of the mentality of taking the game to the opposition, he seems to act rather than react and we need a lot of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heid3ster Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 6 hours ago, bobzy said: But De Laet, Jedinak and Chester (apparently)? That's isn't returning to the Premier League, it's burying yourself in the depths of the Championship. All three of the players you mentioned (plus Elphick) have recent experience promoting teams from the Championship to the Premier League. Why isn't that "returning to the Premier League"? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 6 hours ago, bobzy said: Championship experience. Is that really a thing? It's an inferior league to the one above. Yeah, and we're in the Championship...not that league above. It's not just Championship experience, but experience in being promoted from the Championship. These were key players in promotion squads who went on to play 3 or 4 seasons in the PL as key players as well. Especially in central defence, I'd say that kind of experience is invaluable for us right now (Elphick has the same type of experience and we've all seen the difference he's made in 1 game). Having a solid if unspectacular CB who is proven at this level is a monumental step up from Okore and Richards. The same goes for Jedinak. And De Laet has proven in the past few years that he is a competent right back at Championship level at least (he was decent in Leicester's first season in the prem too). You can't say that isn't a huge step up on Hutton especially based on yesterday's showing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 7 hours ago, StefanAVFC said: Players that have been there, done that and won games down here. We definitely need it. Our players look scared shitless when we concede. We're a championship club. We need players who have performed at a good level down here. Were you this negative about McCormack out of interest? No, I wasn't. I was upbeat about McCormack as he was a starting forward (and star player) at the team we bought him from. James Chester is not. Mile Jedinak is not. Ritchie De Laet is not. If they all come and perform well then it's all good, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TrentVilla Posted August 12, 2016 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted August 12, 2016 8 hours ago, bobzy said: Championship experience. Is that really a thing? It's an inferior league to the one above. I don't follow. How is experience in the league we are in not a 'thing'? We aren't in the league above, we are in the championship, so to me signing players that have excelled in the Championship in order to reach the PL are just what we want. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberman Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 I'm kind of on the fence with this lot of rumours. Are they better than what we have - definitely. Are they good enough for where we want to be - probably not. So I can't really get that excited. I hope they come in and help us get promoted - if they do I'll be grateful but also expect that we will need to upgrade again pretty soon. One step at a time I suppose. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted August 12, 2016 Moderator Share Posted August 12, 2016 21 minutes ago, bobzy said: No, I wasn't. I was upbeat about McCormack as he was a starting forward (and star player) at the team we bought him from. James Chester is not. Mile Jedinak is not. Ritchie De Laet is not. If they all come and perform well then it's all good, of course. Yes but McCormack came from a club below us and the other three of the come are taking steps down to us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nazvfc Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 I'm sure at the beginning when the manager was being talked about the owner mentioned he spoke to all the candidates but chose RDM as he had a plan to create 3 teams - 1 to get us out if this division. 1 to consolidate in the premier and the final one to move to the next level that's why he chose him. Was it RDM or Moyes? But I do remember reading that. So is this team the one to get us up and then another rebuild to be done? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted August 12, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted August 12, 2016 9 hours ago, TrentVilla said: LB but yes. I know we all worship Amavi, but could Chester fill in at LB for us too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilko154 Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 If he signs this morning will he play tomorrow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponky Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 Any chance rdm is thinking of paying a back three with wing backs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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