Grasshopper Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 @Dr Tony Xia Bruce -> Trigger -> Pull please Thanx in advance 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 On 06/02/2017 at 18:43, Eastie said: Man with No shoes Sweeps floor, for man with no feet. need no shoes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Xia isn't picking the managers, but people he employs are, and those people need to be sacked, two utter **** duds have been brought in this season. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morley_crosses_to_Withe Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Just now, Dr_Pangloss said: Xia isn't picking the managers, but people he employs are, and those people need to be sacked, two utter **** duds have been brought in this season. It seems RDM was mostly his choice, but I agree anyway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Alakagom Posted February 11, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted February 11, 2017 Both picks were very reasonable at the time. The issues seem to be rooted deeper in the club, not just players and manager.. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuwabatake Sanjuro Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Instead of spending vast sums on championship level players it is time he spends a vast sum on a top manager instead. Sell it as a massive challenge to someone like Bielsa and pay him whatever he wants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morley_crosses_to_Withe Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 7 minutes ago, Alakagom said: Both picks were very reasonable at the time. The issues seem to be rooted deeper in the club, not just players and manager.. In that case - what are they and how are they being fixed!? That's probably a question for the next fan consultation meeting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post markavfc40 Posted February 11, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted February 11, 2017 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Alakagom said: Both picks were very reasonable at the time. The issues seem to be rooted deeper in the club, not just players and manager.. If it is not players, manager, coaches, technical director, CEO, owner, all of which have been changed over the last 9 months, some more than once, then I don't know what it is. You can't go any deeper rooted than that. Personally I don't think there is anything fundamentally wrong. We have a squad of players working under their second manager this season, three quarters of them having arrived since last summer half a dozen of which have been here a couple of weeks, and at the moment we don't look anything like a team on the pitch. Whether you think that will be improved by changing the manager or allowing the current one more than 4 months is down to personal opinion of the current one I guess. Edited February 11, 2017 by markavfc40 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Pull the trigger Dr Tony Enough is enough 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 31 minutes ago, markavfc40 said: If it is not players, manager, coaches, technical director, CEO, owner, all of which have been changed over the last 9 months, some more than once, then I don't know what it is. You can't go any deeper rooted than that. Personally I don't think there is anything fundamentally wrong. We have a squad of players working under their second manager this season, three quarters of them having arrived since last summer half a dozen of which have been here a couple of weeks, and at the moment we don't look anything like a team on the pitch. Whether you think that will be improved by changing the manager or allowing the current one more than 4 months is down to personal opinion of the current one I guess. As usual Mark a sensible comment. However, I worry when I see little evidence particularly since the Cardiff game of the slightest evidence of any fundamental improvement. I don't know long is reasonable. I seen all this when Ron Saunders was building, but I could see little pockets of improvement way before we was getting good results. I see a lack of basic skills on show, leading up to today, because I didn't see today's game. when you buy amongst the best players in the league and the basics are missing....its a worry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 13 minutes ago, TRO said: As usual Mark a sensible comment. However, I worry when I see little evidence particularly since the Cardiff game of the slightest evidence of any fundamental improvement. I don't know long is reasonable. I seen all this when Ron Saunders was building, but I could see little pockets of improvement way before we was getting good results. I see a lack of basic skills on show, leading up to today, because I didn't see today's game. when you buy amongst the best players in the league and the basics are missing....its a worry. First half today we were playing good football. It's the lack of playing at that level for a full 90 minutes that's cost us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, mikeyp102 said: First half today we were playing good football. It's the lack of playing at that level for a full 90 minutes that's cost us. Have we outplayed anyone this season for 90 minutes? Nearly all games have been a decent half at best . cant wait to play Rotherham again as that's been our only comfortable game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Eastie said: Have we outplayed anyone this season for 90 minutes? Nearly all games have been a decent half at best . cant wait to play Rotherham again as that's been our only comfortable game. It's not just this season is it? For about 5 years we switch off for at least 30 mins a game Edited February 11, 2017 by mikeyp102 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 (edited) On 2/11/2017 at 17:45, Alakagom said: Both picks were very reasonable at the time. The issues seem to be rooted deeper in the club, not just players and manager.. There is only Bricks and Mortar left.....don't know how they can effect anything.....not tangibly anyway. We have changed just about everyone that matters. Edited February 14, 2017 by TRO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastie Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 32 minutes ago, mikeyp102 said: It's not just this season is it? For about 5 years we switch off for at least 30 mins a game Even lambert , Sherwood and Mcleish presided over some really good performances and wins on occasions . the 6-1 Sunderland , 4-0 away Sunderland and 3-1 win at Chelsea spring straight to mind . This season possibly our best performance was a draw at Brighton , most of the rest has been forgettable. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunnski Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Hire someone who isnt a bottler and has the balls to stick to a formation and actually attempts to dominate the lesser teams of this league. We need a leader of men not an excuse maker and a bottler. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 2 hours ago, mikeyp102 said: First half today we were playing good football. It's the lack of playing at that level for a full 90 minutes that's cost us. I'm astounded anyone could describe what we did as football let alone good football. Baker or Johnston hoofing it for Kodja to miss or our least technically player Hutton being our main attacking outlet do not constitute good football in my book. We created a few chances, but this League is rife with chances it should be s given. Pretty much everyone around me were in despair and worried that a Mcarthy ( not the most free flowing Manager) Ipswich side were playing the majority of passed for football. And those fears were confirmed by a dire second half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 1 hour ago, TRO said: There is only Bricks and Mortar left.....don't know how they can effect anything.....not tangibly anyway. We have changes just about everyone that matters. I've said in the other thread there is no mystery to me we are getting what happens to any Club( or business, or relationship) when it has a culture of neglect and indifference. That was never going to all vanish overnight. But you need the right Manager and it's really not especially odd we've struggled because some of the choices have been awful. In Bruces case it was a fair enough choice, but again there's nothing odd about it that it doesn't work. Sometimes it does. ( Ron Saunders at Villa, GT Mk 1)........sometimes it doesn't (Ron Saunders after Villa, GT Mk 2). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Yes but when we got Saunders and Taylor (First time) they were both about 41. Bruce maybe has been around too long. We've not got him at his peak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Finger to the out position Tony! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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