JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 18 minutes ago, sne said: Why? Exactly, I would actually suggest the opposite. I hope the people who are now moaning about Xia are not the sames ones who wanted Bruce in!!! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Only2McInallys Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 How could sacking Bruce have improved our financial position? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 1 minute ago, Londonastonvilla said: How could sacking Bruce have improved our financial position? He's on a rolling contract so he'll always cost a lot to sack. Short term it will always be a big outlay, but in the long run we can't really afford to pay £1.5-3m a year to a manager in the Championship can we? So plan would be to retain him forever, or do you feel we'll be in a stronger financial position next year under Xia? We need to start thinking long term, and IMO Bruce is not the manager to rebuild on a budget and develop youth players. So for me Bruce on a big contract for another year (or more) is a waste of time and money we do not have. Problem is we also seem to lack the money to sack him. Hence the waiting game for him to walk out or get poached. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted July 5, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 5, 2018 10 minutes ago, Londonastonvilla said: How could sacking Bruce have improved our financial position? By having a manager capable of utilising the expensive squad he had correctly and getting promoted is the one that sticks out for me. 19 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A'Villan Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 32 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: By having a manager capable of utilising the expensive squad he had correctly and getting promoted is the one that sticks out for me. If my mood surrounding Villa was a little more upbeat and lighthearted this would make me chuckle. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStagMan Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 1 hour ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: By having a manager capable of utilising the expensive squad he had correctly and getting promoted is the one that sticks out for me. Bingo...... The crux of the argument for the last season. But this is the Xia thread, not the Bruce thread........ So...... Xia out! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osmark86 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 1 hour ago, A'Villan said: If my mood surrounding Villa was a little more upbeat and lighthearted this would make me chuckle. still made me chuckle nonetheless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 More it more it is clear is was not just an accidental missed bill. Looks like he will happily see the club struggle and get worse rather than sell. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osmark86 Posted July 5, 2018 Share Posted July 5, 2018 34 minutes ago, DCJonah said: More it more it is clear is was not just an accidental missed bill. Looks like he will happily see the club struggle and get worse rather than sell. tbf I don't think a lot of things are very clear atm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NurembergVillan Posted July 5, 2018 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted July 5, 2018 1 hour ago, osmark86 said: atm. Don't expect Tony near one of them. It'll keep his card. 6 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted July 6, 2018 Moderator Share Posted July 6, 2018 20 hours ago, sne said: He's on a rolling contract so he'll always cost a lot to sack. That's not entirely true. A rolling contract where the manager always has a year left is designed so that both parties have a fixed amount in writing as compensation for a sacking - it usually relates to that one year salary, which means they're a lot cheaper to sack in the first couple of years of their contract than a manager on a regular contract, but they know they've always got the protection of a year if the club are thinking of letting their contract wind down and letting them go for nothing. Rolling contracts are about the manager sacrificing a potentially higher compensation fee to always guarantee a minimum. For the most part, I think that makes them cheaper to sack, but impossible to get rid of for nothing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 52 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: That's not entirely true. A rolling contract where the manager always has a year left is designed so that both parties have a fixed amount in writing as compensation for a sacking - it usually relates to that one year salary, which means they're a lot cheaper to sack in the first couple of years of their contract than a manager on a regular contract, but they know they've always got the protection of a year if the club are thinking of letting their contract wind down and letting them go for nothing. Rolling contracts are about the manager sacrificing a potentially higher compensation fee to always guarantee a minimum. For the most part, I think that makes them cheaper to sack, but impossible to get rid of for nothing. Yeah, but if the reported figure of £3m is true (I doubt it) then I'd say it's quite a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 23 hours ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Exactly, I would actually suggest the opposite. I hope the people who are now moaning about Xia are not the sames ones who wanted Bruce in!!! Why? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dounavilla Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 So, any news on Tony Xialatan ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob182 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 1 hour ago, dounavilla said: So, any news on Tony Xialatan ? Next Tuesday 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 54 minutes ago, Rob182 said: Next Tuesday I heard Wednesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackbauer24 Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Rob182 said: Next Tuesday 27 minutes ago, briny_ear said: I heard Wednesday. You're both wrong. Look out for a 'day'. I can't reveal my source, or say if it's got anything to do with Aston Villa at all, I'm just passing on a message I heard. Don't question me or make me feel bad for sticking my neck out for telling you this I'm just telling you what I know. Anything that happens that 'day' is thanks to my greatness. Oh, but if nothing happens ever again that's how these things work...things are changing all the time. #realITK 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 On 05/07/2018 at 10:56, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: By paying loads of compensation to him and his coaching staff, bringing in a new manager who would need to recruit his own support team at further expense, get to know the squad, try out new formations and tactics, and have a cast iron excuse if results dropped off because it wasn’t his choice and he would need to buy a whole new bunch of players next transfer window. FTFY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 (edited) 12 minutes ago, briny_ear said: FTFY - By paying loads of compensation to him and his coaching staff, bringing in a new manager who would need to recruit his own support team at further expense, get to know the squad, try out new formations and tactics, and have a cast iron excuse if results dropped off because it wasn’t his choice and he would need to buy a whole new bunch of players next transfer window. Ironically, You've pretty much described Bruce's tenure there. Edited July 6, 2018 by JAMAICAN-VILLAN 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAuthority Posted July 6, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted July 6, 2018 So the “big reveal” this week was Steve Round leaving?? Did I miss something else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts