Stevo985 Posted July 13, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted July 13, 2016 13 minutes ago, Zatman said: but Sam like Hodgson isnt an adventurous manager. 0-0 vs Slovakia or 2-1 down to Iceland I dont see him as a man that will make instinctive attacking subs to change the game on other hand I dont think he would put up with nonsense attitude from players like Sterling and Hart among others though Andy Carroll will definite be a player happy with it **** adventurous. What does that even mean? He gets results. Dunno if he'll get them with England, but the point is people wanting a manager who plays good football are, as usual, talking nonsense. I want a manager who wins tournament matches. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDuck Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 Surprised if the FA appoint Allardyce... complete lack of personality seems to have been the key attribute the FA look for in a manager this last decade or so, he really doesn't fit the bill there. Hope he gets it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sexbelowsound Posted July 13, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted July 13, 2016 If we'd have won the Euro's playing the football that Portugal did I doubt there would be any calls for 'pretty' football right now. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted July 13, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted July 13, 2016 1 minute ago, sexbelowsound said: If we'd have won the Euro's playing the football that Portugal did I doubt there would be any calls for 'pretty' football right now. Is the right answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lapal_fan Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 I hope this means we can finally see Jay Jay Okocha get called up. Probably the best appointment we could have made. Someone that will pick a system and play the right players in that system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 19 minutes ago, sexbelowsound said: If we'd have won the Euro's playing the football that Portugal did I doubt there would be any calls for 'pretty' football right now. 100% agree, not too many complaints after the win against Wales which was far from pretty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 33 minutes ago, Zatman said: but Sam like Hodgson isnt an adventurous manager. 0-0 vs Slovakia or 2-1 down to Iceland I dont see him as a man that will make instinctive attacking subs to change the game you dont have to make attacking subs, you have to have the players on the pitch know exactly what their roles are and what they should be doing, give them that bit of confidence which will enable them to stay calm and then we should beat the likes of slovakia and iceland, if that means we perform well but still lose to a team of better ability then thats acceptable by and large what we cant do it play for 75 minutes a goal down and find that we have 11 players who dont know what the **** they should be doing, danny rose in the 87th minute coming over and asking roy how he wants him to play...i dont think you'll have that under sam, hodgson's terrible game management highlighted his terrible off the field management, i think sam would get at least one of them right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 England have won 6 knockout games at major championships since 1966 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 3 minutes ago, Zatman said: England have won 6 knockout games at major championships since 1966 I'm more surprised it's that many than anything, considering we've only won 1 at the Euros or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan. Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 I hope he does get the job, he's the ideal candidate, knows English football and will play to a system* *FA permitting. 4 hours ago, MrDuck said: Surprised if the FA appoint Allardyce... complete lack of personality 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 I'm all for Fat Sam. Just what England need. I expect him to manage like Mike Basset 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 There's a reason England is so far behind other nations when it comes to football development, and that reason is to do with a style of football ingrained into the 'English way'. If England want to improve the last thing they need is someone who'll reinforce that style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 (edited) There is no right or wrong way to win tournaments, and more often than not they are won by the team with the best defence. If England become a solid team that can grind 1-0 wins against good opposition, they will have improved significantly. Edited July 13, 2016 by CarewsEyebrowDesigner 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 33 minutes ago, useless said: There's a reason England is so far behind other nations when it comes to football development, and that reason is to do with a style of football ingrained into the 'English way'. If England want to improve the last thing they need is someone who'll reinforce that style. I must have missed the brand new 'Portuguese way' of playing football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 So just because Portugal have won a competition we must copy them. Besides they may have put in some good defensive performances, but they also have some very good technical players, who proved to be match-winners for them, it's not as if they're a blood and thunder team who've just a trophy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 England are the equivalent of a lower mid-table Premier League team, so Allardyce would be perfect. I never thought I'd say that I hope the FA appoints Sam Allardyce, but there you go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 Isn't Allardyce also notorilus for playing weakend teams in tournaments. Of course he won't do that with England but he hardly even has any experience of even trying to do well in them. If England really must insist on a English manager, then I'd like to say that they'd be better off with someone like Eddie Howe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 31 minutes ago, sharkyvilla said: England are the equivalent of a lower mid-table Premier League team, so Allardyce would be perfect. I never thought I'd say that I hope the FA appoints Sam Allardyce, but there you go. I would've laughed at Allardyce a month ago but now I can see the sunlit uplands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 38 minutes ago, useless said: So just because Portugal have won a competition we must copy them. Besides they may have put in some good defensive performances, but they also have some very good technical players, who proved to be match-winners for them, it's not as if they're a blood and thunder team who've just a trophy. Portugal are hardly an anomaly though....Greece won it the same way in 2004, Spain 1 niled their way to 2010 world cup (although I accept their passing was a mile above what England can do) and Argentina reached last world cup final playing very defensive football. No one is saying Big Sam is the messiah but England need structure and discipline at the back and maybe then some of the flair players can do something as England do have some of them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 Besides, Allardyce's style of football isn't much like Portugal's, Spain's or Greece's when they won. He isn't really a defensive manager, if people think that that's the way to go then Moyes would probably be a better choice (if he'd take the job). If they give the job to Allardyce I don't think he'll last long at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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