VillaChris Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Think this proves a point of this thread....Man. City want Reece Oxford. He played that first game v Arsenal that got people excited and then drifted from contention. Surely it's more logical to move to a decent championship club, that's all City would do if they signed him anyway. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 17 minutes ago, VillaChris said: Surely it's more logical to move to a decent championship club, that's all City would do if they signed him anyway. I'd personally rather play for Barnsley earning £10k a week on loan from City than play for Barnsley earning £1k a week. It's those that don't get loaned out and sit on the bench every week that're the issue. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 4 minutes ago, kurtsimonw said: I'd personally rather play for Barnsley earning £10k a week on loan from City than play for Barnsley earning £1k a week. It's those that don't get loaned out and sit on the bench every week that're the issue. think at Man City they call it the Scott Sinclair position Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, kurtsimonw said: I'd personally rather play for Barnsley earning £10k a week on loan from City than play for Barnsley earning £1k a week. It's those that don't get loaned out and sit on the bench every week that're the issue. He can do that playing for West Ham if he signed a new deal. More chance of breaking into their first team aswell. Edited July 19, 2016 by VillaChris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted July 20, 2016 Moderator Share Posted July 20, 2016 16 hours ago, VillaChris said: Think this proves a point of this thread....Man. City want Reece Oxford. He played that first game v Arsenal that got people excited and then drifted from contention. Surely it's more logical to move to a decent championship club, that's all City would do if they signed him anyway. Yes, it's exactly my point. They're rolling the dice on someone just in case they become top notch. I know we can't stop it from happening but it's just terrible to see. It's no skin off Citeh's back because they can and will just toss him to the curb if nothing comes of it, but it potentially makes a balls of his career - or at the very least lessens his chances of succeeding - it unnecessarily hurts the selling team and hurts the national team. **** Man City and their ilk. I hope they crash and burn as a club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 15 minutes ago, BOF said: Yes, it's exactly my point. They're rolling the dice on someone just in case they become top notch. I know we can't stop it from happening but it's just terrible to see. It's no skin off Citeh's back because they can and will just toss him to the curb if nothing comes of it, but it potentially makes a balls of his career - or at the very least lessens his chances of succeeding - it unnecessarily hurts the selling team and hurts the national team. **** Man City and their ilk. I hope they crash and burn as a club. I agree with what you're saying but this isn't a new thing, and certainly not a Man City thing either. Big clubs have been hoovering up promising young players on the off chance for years. Its a tricky predicament for the player and his family. This 1 contract will set him up for life if he's sensible and he'll be young enough to move on after if it didn't turn out well. He might be loyal to his current club or drop down the championship only to get a terrible injury or just not find any form their either. Moving to the rich club might mess up his career, staying might also not end well. At least take the well paid risk I say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted July 20, 2016 Moderator Share Posted July 20, 2016 Just now, Genie said: I agree with what you're saying but this isn't a new thing, and certainly not a Man City thing either. Big clubs have been hoovering up promising young players on the off chance for years. I never said it was. But I don't have to like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 2 minutes ago, BOF said: I never said it was. But I don't have to like it. Fair enough, just that you mentioned Man City several times. All clubs do it to a degree, Villa have bought in lots of very promising 14-17 year olds never to see the light of day. Its all relative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 6 hours ago, Genie said: Fair enough, just that you mentioned Man City several times. All clubs do it to a degree, Villa have bought in lots of very promising 14-17 year olds never to see the light of day. Its all relative. I'm assuming it's because he was quoting a post about City signing a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Signed Reece Oxford on loan, two seasons running. We got back to back promotions into the PL. and I had an £8m bid accepted. He turned me down for Newcastle. After all we went through, I made him my captain, I made him the player he was. He was rocky in my first season but I stuck by him, I trusted him, I allowed him to develop, to make mistakes. That is how he repayed me. That kid can go swivel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 (edited) Allardyce to be announced within 24 hours. EDIT: "Sky understands" Edited July 20, 2016 by coda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Allardyce is such an uninspired appointment. Why does the England manager have to be English anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted July 20, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted July 20, 2016 8 minutes ago, Mantis said: Allardyce is such an uninspired appointment. Why does the England manager have to be English anyway? He doesn't. Or at least he shouldn't have to be. Unfortunately, if the FA have decided he needs to be English, then Allardyce probably is the best choice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted July 20, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted July 20, 2016 I'm going to put it out there, I think Fat Sam will be a good appointment. I think if he was the manager in the Euros we would have got to the Semis or even the Final. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Not sure on the last bit but to be honest I also think it is a good appointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 14 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: He doesn't. Or at least he shouldn't have to be. Unfortunately, if the FA have decided he needs to be English, then Allardyce probably is the best choice. Oh yeah if the FA have decided that the new manager has to be English then it's probably the best appointment they could make. My point is though that on its own this appointment is a very uninspiring one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Allerdyce eh? At least England won't get relegated 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 I didn't think it was possible to regress from Uncle Woy but the FA have found a way Great job another couple of tournaments where we win **** all to look forward to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Probably the best choice for an average bunch of players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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