The banker loving, baby-eating Tory party thread (regenerated)

[StanBalaban]

11 minutes ago, StanBalaban said:

 

 

 

Full video here...

 

 

[desensitized43]

If you fancy a giggle this morning give a listen Liz Truss's attempt to define the difference between "Invasion" and "Incursion" on LBC.

To think we have someone that stupid in the role of Foreign Secretary when we're on the eve of a potentially disastrous war in Europe. 

[Genie]

11 minutes ago, desensitized43 said:

If you fancy a giggle this morning give a listen Liz Truss's attempt to define the difference between "Invasion" and "Incursion" on LBC.

To think we have someone that stupid in the role of Foreign Secretary when we're on the eve of a potentially disastrous war in Europe. 

You have to feel sorry for the people who work in these departments. I can only assume we have intelligent people working in these offices but then have to put up with the likes of Liz Truss or Boris Johnson being in charge.

[magnkarl]

I've got a mate who's well into BoJo and the blue side. He's actually suddenly started understanding that the conservatives do nothing for him and his social circle. This is a working class man who's not got that much, yet he's been so into Boris due to the brexit saga. Suddenly it appears that the penny has dropped and he's starting to realise that the conservatives, and politicians in general, do anything but help him. He's calling for an end to tory rule and for BoJo to be imprisoned and fined. It only took 6 years of lies, deceit and illegal behaviour, but he's finally waking up.

Long may Boris stay in power and slobber all over the rule of law and constitution, then hopefully this will be a nationwide thing come next election.

[magnkarl]

1 hour ago, StanBalaban said:

Full video here...

 

 

'Politicians are so innately corrupt that they won't understand what they're doing and none of them will obey the rules.'

Statement of the year.

[Amsterdam_Neil_D]

Ian Hislop is really good there.

Question,  If you are a massive company paying ministers money as mentioned.  What do they class this as in the accounts ? In that,  if it has shareholders and the entry is Debit 1 Million pounds,  "consultancy".

From an Financial Audit POV,  there has to be some substance to an invoice ? What did the company get for this transaction or they could put this in every week ? (Shareholders the same,  what did we get for this ?)

Maybe stupid question but how do they cover their tracks as it public record if PLC ?

 

[Xann]

1 hour ago, Genie said:

You have to feel sorry for the people who work in these departments. I can only assume we have intelligent people working in these offices but then have to put up with the likes of Liz Truss or Boris Johnson being in charge.

Oh yeah.

Many are looking to get out.

Which would be a shame, because they're the ones running the shop as the Tories go about pillaging.

An exodus of senior civil servants would leave us with younger, less experienced individuals that have mostly dealt with self serving, or idiotic ministers.

A lot of wisdom lost.

It just steepens the UK's post Tory Brexit decline.

[a m ole]

I **** love Ian Hislop.

[Wainy316]

"Got the big calls right" is their new bullshit soundbite that the frothers are going to fall for.

[Panto_Villan]

2 hours ago, Amsterdam_Neil_D said:

Ian Hislop is really good there.

Question,  If you are a massive company paying ministers money as mentioned.  What do they class this as in the accounts ? In that,  if it has shareholders and the entry is Debit 1 Million pounds,  "consultancy".

From an Financial Audit POV,  there has to be some substance to an invoice ? What did the company get for this transaction or they could put this in every week ? (Shareholders the same,  what did we get for this ?)

Maybe stupid question but how do they cover their tracks as it public record if PLC ?

There's no need to cover their tracks. They'd pay them like any other part-time employee / advisory firm, except the pay rates are likely to be rather high (although I don't think many MPs would be earning anything near £1m for consultancy work).

Financial auditors aren't there to assess value, they're just there to ensure the accounts are accurate so shareholders can assess value. If you say you've paid them £1m and bank statements confirm you've paid them £1m, the auditors would be satisfied - unless the amount you are paying them is so ludicrous it threatens the financial health of the business.

Shareholders would have the right to object, at least in theory. But I'm not even sure this consultancy work would have to be split out from the rest of the wage bill so they might not be aware of the amounts involved. But they'd be entitled to ask those sorts of questions at the Annual General Meeting, etc.

That said, what Hislop said is true - these companies aren't paying politicians money for nothing. If the company doesn't feel like it's getting good value from the payments then the people responsible will usually just stop paying it without any external influence being required.

[StefanAVFC]

He lied

Again

[magnkarl]

22 minutes ago, Wainy316 said:

"Got the big calls right" is their new bullshit soundbite that the frothers are going to fall for.

Or 'This government can be trusted to deliver!"

Deliver booze to downing street.

[bickster]

40 minutes ago, Wainy316 said:

"Got the big calls right" is their new bullshit soundbite that the frothers are going to fall for.

The people that are currently angry won't buy that because that isn't why they are angry

[Stevo985]

Sky News suggesting the Tories wanted to publish the Sue Gray report at 11:55 today so that nobody would have a chance to read it before PMQs

[Genie]

1 hour ago, Wainy316 said:

"Got the big calls right" is their new bullshit soundbite that the frothers are going to fall for.

It’s not even remotely accurate though is it?

Brexit has been nothing but disaster after disaster and leaves us a global laughing stock with a worse economy and many, many other issues. 

The pandemic leaves a report that thousands of people died unnecessarily due to the way the government handed it. 

Then billions of pounds channeled to friends of the party. Taking the piss with parties and gatherings at every opportunity.

Lied to the Queen.

Lied to Parliament.

Lied to the British public.

Vanishes whenever he has to answer serious questions.

Which big calls did he get right? Was it not opting into the EU vaccination programme? Tbh, that probably would have gone better if we were in it rather than them have us to compete with. 

[meregreen]

1 hour ago, Wainy316 said:

"Got the big calls right" is their new bullshit soundbite that the frothers are going to fall for.

The late implementation of the first lockdown, is estimated to have cost 30,000 lives. That was a call he got disastrously wrong, for which many paid a high price.

[Chindie]

Healthy.

Whatever happened to that report on this? Cough.

[markavfc40]

I have just seen PMQs. I know Starmer wanted to keep the same line of attack but when Johnson kept waffling about getting the big decisions right he should have at least called him out on it. 170k+ dead from covid(highest in Europe) 37 billion wasted on failed test and trace, billions to friends/family for inadequate PPE,  record waiting times in NHS pre covid, Brexit shambles, Irish border issue/threat to peace process. The list was endless.

As for Johnson the arrogant bastard won't resign will he so we are now reliant on the gutless, self serving MP's who sit behind him. What a shambles.

[The Fun Factory]

I think bunter will survive this. There is too much going on at the same time- grey, police investigation, now this afghan authorisation. It will be too much for a tory background  mp's they will lose concentration. Plus the threat of war unless keeps a leader in charge even if they are useless.  Bunter will just hope this will all blow over and then to do ok in the may elections.  He may face calls to stand down before the next general election but I think we have another 12 to 18 months of this turd.

[bickster]

6 minutes ago, The Fun Factory said:

Plus the threat of war unless keeps a leader in charge even if they are useless.

Winston Churchill and John Major say a big hello