Davkaus Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 1 minute ago, desensitized43 said: Police decided that it's within their remit to make sure people aren't breaking the law. They are aware it happened in the past, yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 1 minute ago, StefanAVFC said: This is bad in context. As DAG says above, even if/when the Sue Gray report comes out, now it'll be 'we need to wait for the police investigation'. They are investigating now because of info they have now received off the back of Sue Grays investigation. It seems Grays investigation may well be damning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted January 25, 2022 Moderator Share Posted January 25, 2022 Police are investigating 8 parties? Surely we're well beyond 8 at this point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted January 25, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted January 25, 2022 It's utterly baffling that this dude is still the PM. Something is seriously **** in this country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, PieFacE said: It's utterly baffling that this dude is still the PM. Something is seriously **** in this country. The country had a chance and voted for him. Quite frankly we deserve everything we get. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 It's a thoroughly bizarre series of events. The Met refused to investigate due to a lack of evidence. An employee of Boris Johnson conducts as internal investigation. During this investigation she talks to the Met. Based on the evidence given by the Met, the Met now decide there's enough evidence to investigate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 Just now, The Fun Factory said: The country had a chance and voted for him. Quite frankly we deserve everything we get. 43.6% of us did - our electoral system isn't fit for purpose when a government can have an untouchable majority despite winning well under half of the vote. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desensitized43 Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 11 minutes ago, Davkaus said: They are aware it happened in the past, yes? I don't know. It could be like Minority Report where they're investigating Boris Johnson for crimes he's going to commit....I mean, it's a reasonable assumption. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 (edited) After the Met have investigated the politicians, will the politicians start an investigation into the Met for not properly investigating the politicians initially? Will Dick be pulled (kw) in front of MP’s to answer questions about not investigating their conduct? What a completely predictable and avoidable mess. Edited January 25, 2022 by Genie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Straggler Posted January 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Davkaus said: 43.6% of us did - our electoral system isn't fit for purpose when a government can have an untouchable majority despite winning well under half of the vote. A pattern that has supported almost every single Tory govt since the 2ndWW. As a population we vote for a Lib/Lab coalition almost every single election, but FPTP gives us Tory wins and minority rule. We hardly ever have a govt that is representative of us as a people. So glad you raised this point, as it is so easy to despair about your neighbour, but it is really the system that is the problem. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 5 minutes ago, Davkaus said: 43.6% of us did - our electoral system isn't fit for purpose when a government can have an untouchable majority despite winning well under half of the vote. This country had a chance of changing said electoral system. And we didn't change it. Quite frankly we deserve everything we get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted January 25, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted January 25, 2022 11 minutes ago, PieFacE said: It's utterly baffling that this dude is still the PM. Something is seriously **** in this country. Turns out that a system that in part runs on honour rules and respect doesn't work when people who ignore them get enough strength to ignore them unopposed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted January 25, 2022 Moderator Share Posted January 25, 2022 8 minutes ago, Davkaus said: 43.6% of us did - our electoral system isn't fit for purpose when a government can have an untouchable majority despite winning well under half of the vote. 29.5% of the electorate actually voted Conservative Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted January 25, 2022 Moderator Share Posted January 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, The Fun Factory said: This country had a chance of changing said electoral system. And we didn't change it. Quite frankly we deserve everything we get. You can blame Labour for that. I keepm saying this but until Labour supports and actively campaigns for PR it will never happen. And for Labour to take that position requires getting the large unions onside. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 7 minutes ago, bickster said: You can blame Labour for that. I keepm saying this but until Labour supports and actively campaigns for PR it will never happen. And for Labour to take that position requires getting the large unions onside. Divide and (tory) rule Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 Kick the can, look over there! RUSSIA! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted January 25, 2022 Author Moderator Share Posted January 25, 2022 25 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: It's a thoroughly bizarre series of events. The Met refused to investigate due to a lack of evidence. An employee of Boris Johnson conducts as internal investigation. During this investigation she talks to the Met. Based on the evidence given by the Met, the Met now decide there's enough evidence to investigate. What's the betting that the thing that's triggered this is individual Police officers giving accounts and evidence to Sue Gray. That would mean that the Met have to investigate, otherwise it would come out that the Police had evidence and refused to do anything, when she reported. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 Let them eat cake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 45 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: This is bad in context. As DAG says above, even if/when the Sue Gray report comes out, now it'll be 'we need to wait for the police investigation'. On the other hand, keeps it in the public eye for longer. Keeps the Tory rank and file desperate to get rid of him, but without the smoking gun that they are waiting for. I don't think that any Government is going to see the thing causing them to haemorrage public support becoming more serious and going on for longer as a positive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 9 minutes ago, ml1dch said: On the other hand, keeps it in the public eye for longer. Keeps the Tory rank and file desperate to get rid of him, but without the smoking gun that they are waiting for. I don't think that any Government is going to see the thing causing them to haemorrage public support becoming more serious and going on for longer as a positive. The timing is ridiculously suspicious. They've had the evidence all along, and now the report is due to be published, and 'damning' suddenly there's a police investigation that blocks the report? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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