Genie Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 Police getting battered because of government policy Unprecedented numbers of teachers leaving the profession Derisory pay offer inflames NHS staff Classic tories. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bickster Posted March 22, 2021 Moderator Popular Post Share Posted March 22, 2021 1 minute ago, Genie said: Police getting battered because of government policy Unprecedented numbers of teachers leaving the profession Derisory pay offer inflames NHS staff Classic tories. We have indeed landed in the early 80s 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amsterdam_Neil_D Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 51 minutes ago, bickster said: We have indeed landed in the early 80s No Unions or massive industry to go for this time. They are just acquiring new target's at the moment. Good luck to you all as it could be you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 2 hours ago, Amsterdam_Neil_D said: Good luck to you all as it could be you. And for a lot of people until it is them they won't give a shit and won't speak out. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 On 20/03/2021 at 23:01, Xela said: There is a vote in the HoC on Monday to add the McPartland-Smith amendment to the Fire Safety Bill, which will protect leaseholders from ruinous costs due to shoddy building of flats. The initial bill passed without debating the amendment but was defeated by the Lords and sent back to the Commons to vote on the amendment. All opposition MPs will be supporting the amendment I believe, and a small number of tories as well, but every vote counts. This could save the financial future of hundreds of thousands of leaseholders The Tories voted to remove the amendment. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 There were 30 Tory rebels on this division (far below the number required, with the SNP abstaining). If anyone cares enough, you can find out if yours is on the list: https://votes.parliament.uk/Votes/Commons/Division/987#noes 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 Its a blow @markavfc40, but sort of expected. Needed far more tories to rebel. My MP, who said in an email to me that he agrees that leaseholders shouldn't pay, seemingly didn't vote or abstained. I'll be emailing him asking for his comments. The official tory line is that this bill, the Fire Safety Bill, isn't the 'appropriate' place to detail this issue, yet the bill itself, just strengthens the position of the landlord/freeholder to pass all costs onto leaseholders. On that basis, it would seem to be the perfect bill to address this scandal. The fight continues. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingram85 Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 We need a successful Guy Fawkes moment now or this country is doomed. I can’t see a future where people vote these corrupt evil bastards out. The country has a majority of racist, I’m alright jack nasty people that celebrate being a word removed. The government and the majority that vote for it are a reflection of each other. I dread the future living in this country as a working class person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ingram85 said: The government and the majority that vote for it are a reflection of each other Plurality, not majority. It'll carry on until the majority who aren't pricks and have split themselves into half a dozen "not pricks" parties get bored of losing to the pricks. Edited March 23, 2021 by ml1dch 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 The success of the vaccination programme is due to capitalism and greed, no Boris, that’s just how you and the rest of the servile Tory scum got where you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 Are these people for real? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted March 24, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted March 24, 2021 4 minutes ago, bannedfromHandV said: Are these people for real? This thread was a rather enjoyable retort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted March 24, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted March 24, 2021 4 minutes ago, bannedfromHandV said: Are these people for real? The thing around flags is getting really really weird. It must be a clear tactic of sorts from the Tories. They must have been advised to push this sort of thing. It's very National Front to be honest. I quite like Tim Davie's response to the question though ("it's a strange metric to measure patriotism" or something similar) but part of me wishes he'd been a bit fiercer in his dismissal of it as a question or an issue. "it's an offical Annual Report, not a propaganda flyer for Brexit" The absolute worst outcome is the next BBC report or whatever it was is now emblazoned with union flags. I hope they stand their ground. It's **** ridiculous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 Amusingly, his Twitter picture (shown above) and banner background (a harbour) and website (https://www.jameswild.org.uk/) contain zero flags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted March 24, 2021 Author Moderator Share Posted March 24, 2021 14 hours ago, Ingram85 said: We need a successful Guy Fawkes moment now or this country is doomed. Traitor. And where's your flag you Britain hating subversive? To the Tower with you! and off with your head. Seriously, what you want is never, ever, going to happen. In the same way that this creeping awfulness has built over the last 10 or 11 years or so, the only way it'll actually get reversed is over a similar timescale. It might not be want we want, but it's the way the world works. The hard bit is the initial change of direction. Once that happens, and it only needs to be a relatively minor thing that triggers it, the rest will (possibly) follow. It's just getting the initial change of direction that I think efforts need to concentrate on, not overthrowing the whole system. Because once one thing has changed, it will get used as the impetus for the next thing. Places where there have been Guy Fawkes moments - how much better off are any of them? The only exception I can think of is the fall of the Berlin wall, and the benefits that had for East Germany, but even then for a long time they were no better off in practical terms. Change looks fast, but is always slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MessiWillSignForVilla Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 3 hours ago, Stevo985 said: The thing around flags is getting really really weird. It must be a clear tactic of sorts from the Tories. They must have been advised to push this sort of thing. It's very National Front to be honest. I quite like Tim Davie's response to the question though ("it's a strange metric to measure patriotism" or something similar) but part of me wishes he'd been a bit fiercer in his dismissal of it as a question or an issue. "it's an offical Annual Report, not a propaganda flyer for Brexit" The absolute worst outcome is the next BBC report or whatever it was is now emblazoned with union flags. I hope they stand their ground. It's **** ridiculous The only major difference I can see is that the Tories are all for Corruption... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 I think we can all agree with Starmer, now is not the time to be criticising the tories. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted March 24, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted March 24, 2021 24 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: I think we can all agree with Starmer, now is not the time to be criticising the tories. Radical leftists would do that, and that's tantamount to being Hitler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingram85 Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 Who is this Starmer fellow some of you talk about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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