blandy Posted March 5, 2021 Author Moderator Share Posted March 5, 2021 27 minutes ago, markavfc40 said: Has the testing really been a huge success? I mean without the trace element being fit for purpose it means the results from the testing side aren't being utilised as they should. The bottom line as to how effective all this has been has to be in the number of people who have been infected/hospitalised and died and in that regard the UK have failed miserably. The fact that we have spent an absolute fortune in doing so just shows how incompetent and corrupt the government is. The testing's been fine, pretty much. But the 20 odd billion on the Track and trace has been a clusterpork of cronyism, incompetence, missed opportunities and wasteage. T&T should have been a major part of the way that the fungus was kept under control. Utter shambles. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 Surely there has to be consequences. You can't just give your mates £20 billion to deliver a poor service and nothing come of it. When are things going to matter again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 8 minutes ago, DCJonah said: Surely there has to be consequences. You can't just give your mates £20 billion to deliver a poor service and nothing come of it. When are things going to matter again? There's no referee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lichfield Dean Posted March 5, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted March 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: There's no referee. The electorate are the referee I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted March 5, 2021 Author Moderator Share Posted March 5, 2021 29 minutes ago, DCJonah said: Surely there has to be consequences. Consequences are for the little people, not the likes of Tory Government Ministers. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post markavfc40 Posted March 5, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 5, 2021 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Lichfield Dean said: The electorate are the referee I suppose. I think for a large proportion of the electorate the boundaries as to what is acceptable have been extended. The current incumbents in Government have chanced their hand in sticking two fingers up to what would usually have been seen as unacceptable behaviour, such as the proroguing of parliament, the Dominic Cummings debacle, Priti Patel bullying, and just downright bare faced lying across the board, and I bet can't believe their luck that they have continually got away with it. Not called out in the media in the main and the opposition in Labour have either been too meek or simply been portrayed as being whining lefties and a lot of the electorate tune out to anything they have to say. I came across a tweet yesterday by the daily mail in relation to the 1% pay increase proposal for nurses and was stupid enough to click on it to see some of the comments. Loads saying they don't deserve anything, their jobs have been protected over last year, given we have 130k dead shouldn't they be getting a deduction in pay for failing to do their jobs properly. Just an example of the way some people think and the need to blame someone or need to not want to see someone get a leg up. Be that blaming foreigners, the poor, the pesky EU, those out of work, disabled, public sector workers. As long as there are enough people like that voting, and the government can portray a narrative that any woes are your neighbours fault and not theirs, then the Tories will continue to get away with murder. Quite literally in some cases. Edited March 5, 2021 by markavfc40 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted March 5, 2021 Moderator Share Posted March 5, 2021 It's quite astonishing how many times now that Johnson is saying one thing to the Commons and Govt Lawyers are saying the complete opposite in a court of law at the the same time 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 Can’t go telling lies. I fully expect the BBC to now run a 5 day campaign across all their news programmes repeating calls for ministers to resign. I expect Newsnight will give the issue a 15 minute slot every evening asking if his position is now impossible and whether he has jeopardised the future of Westminster and the faith of the people in the tory party which may now split in to a disastrous civil war between various factions. Every night. 6:00pm, 10:00pm Newsnight. You can’t mislead people, its a resignation matter. Lengthy quotes from opposition politicians calling for mass resignations. I’m sure I’m right. I’m sure that’s how they will deal with it. It’s what they’ve been doing with Sturgeon and the SNP, so they have the template. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingram85 Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 (edited) If they go with the NHS 1% pay rise then I hope every single one of them that votes in favour of it all get Covid. Rancid **** excuses for human beings. They all deserve to perish. Not even human. Edited March 5, 2021 by Ingram85 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 A pay rise, exempt from furlough, ostentatious displays of clapping, free badge. And the **** are still not happy. No pleasing some people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 11 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: A pay rise, exempt from furlough, ostentatious displays of clapping, free badge. And the **** are still not happy. No pleasing some people. Unless I am mistaken didn’t they have pictures of rainbows last year? I didn’t. You don’t see me complaining. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted March 5, 2021 Moderator Share Posted March 5, 2021 4 hours ago, blandy said: The testing's been fine, pretty much. But the 20 odd billion on the Track and trace has been a clusterpork of cronyism, incompetence, missed opportunities and wasteage. T&T should have been a major part of the way that the fungus was kept under control. Utter shambles. It genuinely is £37bn, they very quietly announced an additional £15bn in the budget. It's hard to get an idea of how much it should have cost as figures for other countries aren't easy to find and compare - the nearest I have is that I saw Ireland (with a much smaller population) were looking to do the whole thing for under 500 million Euros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted March 5, 2021 Author Moderator Share Posted March 5, 2021 1 hour ago, OutByEaster? said: It genuinely is £37bn, they very quietly announced an additional £15bn in the budget. Yeah - that's future spend, not money already spent (squandered), isn't it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 (edited) Paying for articles about how great Brexit is certainly seems like a necessary and responsible use of taxpayer money. Edited March 5, 2021 by Davkaus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 (edited) Hancock once again using his air time to proclaim how successful they have been in tackling covid. How great NHS serco test and trace has been. He is clearly kidding some people but unless you are one of the private providers who have racked in a fortune of public money over the last year how gullible/thick have you got to be to have witnessed what has happened over the last year, looked at our covid death figures, and believe the way we have tackled it has been a success. Edited March 5, 2021 by markavfc40 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 11 hours ago, OutByEaster? said: The total spending on Test & Trace has now risen to £37bn. That's 6% of the entire tax revenue in the country for a year. It's £560 each in tax. For a system that doesn't work; for the pockets of a handful of Boris's mates. No wonder we can't afford to give anyone in the public sector a pay rise. That is a scandalous waste of money. That could almost sort the leaseholder fire safety problem. Instead they are turning a blind eye to that, while people go bankrupt and commit suicide, and the Government are too scared to go after the big house-builders, who happen to be donors to the party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted March 5, 2021 Moderator Share Posted March 5, 2021 12 minutes ago, Xela said: That is a scandalous waste of money. Your cladding issue aside, describing it as a waste of money is rather downplaying what it is. It's corruption, on an industrial scale Quote Matt Hancock ‘takes down’ picture of pub linked to Covid contract Minister has claimed he had ‘nothing to do’ with former pub owner’s contract for Covid test vials Health secretary Matt Hancock appears to have removed a photograph of the local pub formally run by an acquaintance caught up in controversy over a government Covid contract. A company owned by Alex Bourne – the former landlord of Mr Hancock’s local pub the Cock Inn – is currently under investigation by the UK’s medical regulator over a contract to produce Covid test vials for the NHS. In recent months Mr Hancock has been seen doing live TV interviews with a framed photo of the Cock Inn, located in his West Suffolk constituency, on the wall of his study. However, on Tuesday, a different picture could be seen over the minister’s right shoulder when he made a series of media appearances. Indie 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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chrisp65 Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 9 hours ago, bickster said: It's quite astonishing how many times now that Johnson is saying one thing to the Commons and Govt Lawyers are saying the complete opposite in a court of law at the the same time 8 hours ago, chrisp65 said: Can’t go telling lies. I fully expect the BBC to now run a 5 day campaign across all their news programmes repeating calls for ministers to resign. I expect Newsnight will give the issue a 15 minute slot every evening asking if his position is now impossible and whether he has jeopardised the future of Westminster and the faith of the people in the tory party which may now split in to a disastrous civil war between various factions. Every night. 6:00pm, 10:00pm Newsnight. You can’t mislead people, its a resignation matter. Lengthy quotes from opposition politicians calling for mass resignations. I’m sure I’m right. I’m sure that’s how they will deal with it. It’s what they’ve been doing with Sturgeon and the SNP, so they have the template. Well, this is bloody odd. It doesn’t appear to be on the agenda for tonight’s BBC Newsnight. I’m guessing they must have gone full on wall to wall with it on their earlier news programmes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 11 hours ago, Lichfield Dean said: The electorate are the referee I suppose. They’re worse than Premier League refs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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