terrytini Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 (edited) 10 minutes ago, a m ole said: We are after two forwards, the manager is not going to set up in a friendly game to smash cross after cross into Gestede if he doesn't plan to use him as first choice for the season. it's about preparing the team. Then don't play him. Simple. How is it preparing the Team to include someone in the main position you have no intention of playing, then using Hutton as an ineffective wing back in order to supply him ? What an absolute waste of preparation time that is/would be. Edited July 31, 2016 by terrytini 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonno_2004 Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 Massive few weeks for the management and owners to ensure we don't end up with this guy leading the line from September onwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deamie Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 Gestede would.score goals if the team was set up to use his heading ability......RDM it seems.doesn't want to play that way. Yesterdays game we played him up top on his own and failed to play to his strength which is heading.....why play him then??? We would have been better off playing Hepburn Murphy or Keinan Davies....maybe given Gestede 45 mins to keep his Match fitness up. Poor decision from RDM for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanBalaban Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 It won't come as much of a surprise that a lot of Gestede's goals for Blackburn came from headers or bundled in shots. Looking at this poor quality video, it seems that Blackburn did at least try to aim for him from wide, which is something we're unable to do at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROTTERDAM1982 Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 He IS one dimensional, but apart from Amavi, and occasionally Bacuna, we have no one who can put a decent cross in.He got 20+ goals for Blackburn in this league, so he has history of being effective in this league. Id have him in front of Gabby and Kozak, but , granted, if we want to move on and improve , we need better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 Changing our style of play just to suit Gestede would be foolish. It might help him to get a few more goals, but it would be detrimental to the overall good of the team. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 if your going to play Gestede, sign a **** winger 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Albert Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 ive seen enough crosses put into the box for him and hes no where to be seen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 1 hour ago, Delphinho123 said: No, but if he isn't 4th choice by that time then the Dr. has screwed us. I reckon I'm better than him. If RDM rates him how is that the fault of Xia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 24 minutes ago, DCJonah said: If RDM rates him how is that the fault of Xia No-one rates him. You can't rate him. He's unrateable. The only way he will be in the team is if we don't have anybody else and if that happens then I'll blame Xia. If we do sign a couple of strikers and he's still in the team then I'll hold my hands up and ask for RDM to be sectioned. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 Just to add to the above. He's f****** useless. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 (edited) 2 hours ago, terrytini said: Then don't play him. Simple. How is it preparing the Team to include someone in the main position you have no intention of playing, then using Hutton as an ineffective wing back in order to supply him ? What an absolute waste of preparation time that is/would be. who else plays there? He's a placeholder at the moment, nothing more. Edited July 31, 2016 by a m ole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 1 hour ago, useless said: Changing our style of play just to suit Gestede would be foolish. It might help him to get a few more goals, but it would be detrimental to the overall good of the team. Absolutely. He isnt good enough to dictate how we are going to play or personnel the manager needs to employ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 true but we said same last season that he wouldnt be a replacement for Benteke and we ended up having a season of him up front and no way to play to him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 2 hours ago, StanBalaban said: It won't come as much of a surprise that a lot of Gestede's goals for Blackburn came from headers or bundled in shots. Looking at this poor quality video, it seems that Blackburn did at least try to aim for him from wide, which is something we're unable to do at the moment. Ian Olney/Ian Ormandroyd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 (edited) 35 minutes ago, a m ole said: who else plays there? He's a placeholder at the moment, nothing more. Sorry I don't understand what that even means ? A placeholder ? What is that ? And whatever it is I'm making the point you made, it's about preparing for the new season, so if, as you say, he won't be playing, why play him ? Why not a youth prospect, or Ayew up top ? You know it sometimes seems there are people so desperate to be ' positive' they will turn logic inside out and upside down rather than say something critical. Edited July 31, 2016 by terrytini 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 (edited) 9 minutes ago, terrytini said: Sorry I don't understand what you that even means ? A placeholder ? What is that ? And whatever it is I'm making the point you made, it's about preparing for the new season, so if, as you say, he won't be playing, why play him ? Why not a youth prospect, or Ayew up top ? You know it sometimes seems there are people so desperate to be ' positive' they will turn logic inside out and upside down rather than say something critical. when designing a layout for a publication you would use a placeholder image to signify where an image would be in the page before the final image is chosen. Or there is a Latin passage called 'Lorem Ipsum' known as 'placeholder text' which is used so you can design the overall look and feel of the page without having the actual content at hand. Gestede is being used in lieu of the striker we want to sign. Why not Ayew up top? Because we want to use Ayew as a wide forward primarily, and he can learn his role in the system without having to be shoehorned into CF just so we have a better chance at winning a game that doesn't matter. If Gestede is our number one striker after the window closes, I will be just as worried as you. and I would point the same argument back at you - sometimes people are so desperate to be critical they will turn logic inside out and upside down rather than say something positive. Edited July 31, 2016 by a m ole 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 (edited) 19 minutes ago, terrytini said: Sorry I don't understand what that even means ? A placeholder ? What is that ? And whatever it is I'm making the point you made, it's about preparing for the new season, so if, as you say, he won't be playing, why play him ? Why not a youth prospect, or Ayew up top ? You know it sometimes seems there are people so desperate to be ' positive' they will turn logic inside out and upside down rather than say something critical. I cant see the sense in playing one or two others to be honest, maybe they are all placeholders in lieu of players we want to sign? Edited July 31, 2016 by Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 2 hours ago, Uncle Albert said: ive seen enough crosses put into the box for him and hes no where to be seen. It's probably because Hutton crosses most of them, an Gestede is not waiting on the moon, which is where the crosses end up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponky Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 He's not completely useless. He'd make a great doorstop. (Hodor) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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