Spoony Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 His goal return for the worst team ever isn't so bad. 6 in all competitions. I'd just build the team around him in the Championship and do whatever it is Blackburn did to get him firing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted May 14, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted May 14, 2016 He's fit for tomorrow, so could be a chance to give him a start and a run out... Might as well get him some game time. I think he's going to be pretty important in the Championship, he could even score a few and be a hero next year. If we get a couple of wingers/wing backs who can actually cross (amavi is pretty good if we can keep him) then he could be dangerous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 On Sunday, April 24, 2016 at 20:41, Spoony said: His goal return for the worst team ever isn't so bad. 6 in all competitions. I'd just build the team around him in the Championship and do whatever it is Blackburn did to get him firing. Six? That is bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 For him to work in the Championship for us we obviously need to add a supply line with wingers and full backs who can cross, but he also needs to put in the work. Just look at the work rate (a somewhat similar type of player) Andy Carroll puts in for West Ham, and compare it to the static Gestede we've seen for Villa. I wonder if his motivation is gone after he got his PL move or if he still has the fire to once again hustle and fight in the Championship? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 It's definitely a two way street, not as simple as saying "cross the ball and he'll score" he's got to at least show for the ball, we're not just going to aimlessly throw the ball in for a bloke stood still between two centre backs 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 6 hours ago, alreadyexists said: He's fit for tomorrow, so could be a chance to give him a start and a run out... Might as well get him some game time. I think he's going to be pretty important in the Championship, he could even score a few and be a hero next year. If we get a couple of wingers/wing backs who can actually cross (amavi is pretty good if we can keep him) then he could be dangerous. Whatever we could do tomorrow to help prepare for next season, Black will do the complete opposite. Clean sheet is all he is after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 We won't be anywhere near promotion if we have to rely on Gastede as our main striker. His career record, bar 1 good season in the championship is atrocious, so i don't think its to harsh to suggest that "that season" was an exeception to the rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MessiWillSignForVilla Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 1 hour ago, av1 said: We won't be anywhere near promotion if we have to rely on Gastede as our main striker. His career record, bar 1 good season in the championship is atrocious, so i don't think its to harsh to suggest that "that season" was an exeception to the rule. Both seasons at Blackburn he averaged a 1 in 2 goal scoring ratio, that's pretty good to be fair. He's not a good Premier League striker, but he is a good Championship one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MessiWillSignForVilla Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 1 hour ago, av1 said: We won't be anywhere near promotion if we have to rely on Gastede as our main striker. His career record, bar 1 good season in the championship is atrocious, so i don't think its to harsh to suggest that "that season" was an exeception to the rule. Both seasons at Blackburn he averaged a 1 in 2 goal scoring ratio, that's pretty good to be fair. He's not a good Premier League striker, but he is a good Championship one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted May 14, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted May 14, 2016 You can say that again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MessiWillSignForVilla Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 Bloody site crashed as I posted it! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralJazzman Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 8 hours ago, sne said: For him to work in the Championship for us we obviously need to add a supply line with wingers and full backs who can cross, but he also needs to put in the work. Just look at the work rate (a somewhat similar type of player) Andy Carroll puts in for West Ham, and compare it to the static Gestede we've seen for Villa. I wonder if his motivation is gone after he got his PL move or if he still has the fire to once again hustle and fight in the Championship? Maybe he never had great movement or work rate, anyone actually see him play for Blackburn that season he scored a load? He deffo needs a player up with him, not our 4-3-3 variants. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 1 hour ago, MessiWillSignForVilla said: Both seasons at Blackburn he averaged a 1 in 2 goal scoring ratio, that's pretty good to be fair. He's not a good Premier League striker, but he is a good Championship one. He has scored less than 50 goals in 10yrs, thats appalling. 2014/15 was very much a one off. Career stats. 2005–2010Metz B27 (3) 2007–2011Metz28(3) 2009–2010→ Cannes (loan)22(4) 2011–2014Cardiff City55(7) 2013–2014→ Blackburn Rovers (loan)6(1) 2014–2015Blackburn Rovers66(32) 2015–Aston Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MessiWillSignForVilla Posted May 14, 2016 Share Posted May 14, 2016 2014/15 wasn't a one off as he was also very good for Blackburn in 2013/14, when he scored 13 in 27, roughly 1 in 2. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted May 16, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted May 16, 2016 On 14/05/2016 at 12:27, villa4europe said: It's definitely a two way street, not as simple as saying "cross the ball and he'll score" he's got to at least show for the ball, we're not just going to aimlessly throw the ball in for a bloke stood still between two centre backs Someone on the coaching staff should be examining his performances for Blackburn and work out where all the goals came from so we can replicate it. However I am willing to place a large bet that no one has given it a second thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasoncb Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 7 minutes ago, sidcow said: Someone on the coaching staff should be examining his performances for Blackburn and work out where all the goals came from so we can replicate it. However I am willing to place a large bet that no one has given it a second thought Probably should of done that...you know.....when he initially signed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 He's a giant sack of smeg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 7 minutes ago, sidcow said: Someone on the coaching staff should be examining his performances for Blackburn and work out where all the goals came from so we can replicate it. However I am willing to place a large bet that no one has given it a second thought They came from a better winger than Hutton. We have not once this season played to his strengths. Blackburn as good as built the team around him. The managers we had, have not had a clue. We would be mad to let him go before next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One For The Road Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 8 minutes ago, sidcow said: Someone on the coaching staff should be examining his performances for Blackburn and work out where all the goals came from so we can replicate it. However I am willing to place a large bet that no one has given it a second thought Didn't he have the rather prolific Jordan Rhodes playing along side him last season? A player I'm amazed hasn't been signed by a Prem club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasoncb Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 11 minutes ago, One For The Road said: Didn't he have the rather prolific Jordan Rhodes playing along side him last season? A player I'm amazed hasn't been signed by a Prem club. Not sure he will cut it in the prem, we shall see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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