sne Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 I'd have him back in a heartbeat compared to the options we have atm, but I also don't wan't a player who doesn't wan't to be here... Things may have changed since the summer, or they may not have, we don't know. Don't blame him one bit for wanting to leave in the summer. Personally I doubt he'll be back as I think Bruce has his own targets, but a motivated, settled and happy Veretout would be a good option to have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 (edited) Didn't most of his assists come from set pieces? For me in open play he offered nothing. Hope we get a decent price for him in summer as he is not cut out for English football. Edited October 27, 2016 by mikeyp102 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 (edited) 8 hours ago, bannedfromHandV said: How do you arrive at this conclusion? He was garbage last season and he featured enough times to make that assessment. Had no more impact than any of our other midfielders. EDIT: My point already made by @PieFacE Edited October 27, 2016 by HanoiVillan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoelVilla Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 3 hours ago, PieFacE said: It also takes some players time to adapt to a new league, new life, new language etc. He was also playing a team with no confidence, no plan, no tactics and no decent manager. Also, we're not in the Premier League, I don't believe for a second that the Championship is better, faster and more physical than the French 1st division. The Championship is an awful standard of football, there's no reason why a player like Veretout could be a key midfielder for us in this league, gaining confidence with this squad. This. Ligue 1 is better quality of football than the Championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 My guess is he's still utter rubbish. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoelVilla Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Nobody took the bait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted October 28, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted October 28, 2016 17 hours ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: The Championship is faster and more physical that League 1. Regardless, he didn't want to be here and I doubt very much if that has changed. Really? I disagree. Genuinely curious, do you think the Championship is faster and more physical than Serie A too? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 18 hours ago, AntrimBlack said: That is purely an insult, not an assessment. Right okay, I take it all back then. He was amazing last season wasn't he, remember that game when he.........oh wait...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 19 hours ago, dont_do_it_doug. said: The Championship is faster and more physical that League 1. Regardless, he didn't want to be here and I doubt very much if that has changed. lol - what? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted October 28, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted October 28, 2016 had this with a couple of players last season...a few times asking "why is veretout not playing"...[plays]..."oh yeah, that's why" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 He's playing fine in France for a decent team. Didn't Marseille want him in the summer? They got taken over the other day so he might go there in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 (edited) 8 hours ago, PieFacE said: Really? I disagree. Genuinely curious, do you think the Championship is faster and more physical than Serie A too? Possibly. Why not? I'm talking about a difference in style, not overall quality. The two points aren't one and the same. Being fast and strong doesn't automatically make a player good, except on FIFA, but it does mean that some players find it hard to adjust. Ligue 1 clips it overall for quality of course, especially at the very top end where PSG are ridiculously overpowered, though I'd expect a top end Championship side to give a say 5th place Ligue 1 side a game and for it to be an even affair for example and yes, I think the Championship is the more physical league. I didn't think that was such a controversial opinion when I made it. I do think people have been a bit blindsided by PSG though. Ligue 1 is still naff when compared to the top leagues in Europe, it's only marginally better than Eredivisie. Edited October 28, 2016 by dont_do_it_doug. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest av1 Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 (edited) Whilst many of our players split the opinion of our fabase, i think there are none more so than this lad. Some, including myself think there is a very very good player in there somewhere, and others consider him to be rubbish. Its a funny old game is football. Edited October 28, 2016 by av1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 I watched a mid table ligue 1 match...once. Thought I was watching a testomonial. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoelVilla Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 I have seen Saint Etienne this season. Much better team than anything I have seen Villa play, including Newcastle. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 Claims he was stopped playing at 29 games as a 30th would've triggered more payments to Nantes... I can see it being true...he was still making the bench and suddenly just disappeared from the 18 and we know it's happened before with Curtis Davies and possibly Adama... With Hollis counting the pennies at that time it's pretty credible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted November 1, 2016 Moderator Share Posted November 1, 2016 1 minute ago, VillaChris said: With Hollis counting the pennies at that time it's pretty credible. Few decisions were made in the later years of the Lerner era with football in mind.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 1, 2016 Share Posted November 1, 2016 surely that would have been league games in the clause. He didnt play for last 3 months under Black so doubt he got near 29 league games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hornso Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Got an assist from a set piece on the weekend against Monaco. Seems to be in a decent patch of form at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDuck Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 4 hours ago, Zatman said: surely that would have been league games in the clause. He didnt play for last 3 months under Black so doubt he got near 29 league games 25 league games, 4 cup games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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