PieFacE Posted November 3, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted November 3, 2016 (edited) 6 minutes ago, AvfcRigo82 said: Yes.. so why bring Veretout back. Atleast Sanchez looked more 'able' of the two but he did not fill me with that much confidence either. Sanchez (or a replacement) Jedinak, Gardner & Tish for me. Well I guess that's down to what you saw in him as a player. I saw way more to Veretout's game than I did Sanchez. But then, that's just down to how we watch football, I look at Zlatan and see an amazing footballer, you see an overrated clearing in the woods. So... you know... football innit. Edited November 3, 2016 by PieFacE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted November 3, 2016 Visiting Supporter Share Posted November 3, 2016 Is there anything at all in Vertout coming back or is this just banter and discussion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted November 3, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted November 3, 2016 17 minutes ago, striker said: Is there anything at all in Vertout coming back or is this just banter and discussion? Absolute 100% pure discussion. He'd probably go on a hunger striker not to come back tbf.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 1 hour ago, PieFacE said: Well I guess that's down to what you saw in him as a player. I saw way more to Veretout's game than I did Sanchez. But then, that's just down to how we watch football, I look at Zlatan and see an amazing footballer, you see an overrated clearing in the woods. So... you know... football innit. Where would we be without it chap! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 33 minutes ago, PieFacE said: Absolute 100% pure discussion. He'd probably go on a hunger striker not to come back tbf.... He could probably do with it to be honest. The chubby git. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 Veretout is a complete unknown still. If he wanted to come back though I see no harm in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 Don't get me wrong, he did excite me at the time when he arrived along with the rest of the crop... blinded by false hope you can agree but what I did see was average performances from him and now one for the Mathieu Berson memoirs IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 4 minutes ago, AvfcRigo82 said: Don't get me wrong, he did excite me at the time when he arrived along with the rest of the crop... blinded by false hope you can agree but what I did see was average performances from him and now one for the Mathieu Berson memoirs IMO. I agree, but think of the introduction he got to life in England. A Cockney wideboy chancer who apparently barely spoke to him and managed to oversee 1 win in 11 games. Not all Sherwood's fault and of course Veretout takes some blame but it wasn't exactly ideal conditions for your first move away from home. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 2 minutes ago, sexbelowsound said: I agree, but think of the introduction he got to life in England. A Cockney wideboy chancer who apparently barely spoke to him and managed to oversee 1 win in 11 games. Not all Sherwood's fault and of course Veretout takes some blame but it wasn't exactly ideal conditions for your first move away from home. True, but he soon had a fellow Frenchman at the helm who did play him during his tenure but again for me still failed to convince. Whether it be the quality of leagues or styles of play whatever, on this occasion I just feel that the player himself and Aston Villa are just not meant and prob best we try and get a couple of quid for him in Jan. Thanks for the service you did try and help with in the relegation fight and best of luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 Just now, AvfcRigo82 said: True, but he soon had a fellow Frenchman at the helm who did play him during his tenure but again for me still failed to convince. Whether it be the quality of leagues or styles of play whatever, on this occasion I just feel that the player himself and Aston Villa are just not meant and prob best we try and get a couple of quid for him in Jan. Thanks for the service you did try and help with in the relegation fight and best of luck. If he isn't 100% committed then yes, best to get rid. Won't be in January though unless its only a 6 month loan deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 1 hour ago, striker said: Is there anything at all in Vertout coming back or is this just banter and discussion? Interesting you ask. I have just came across this. Here Quote Jordan Veretout yesterday claimed that Aston Villa made a decision to keep him on the sidelines so they didn't have to pay a bonus to his former club FC Nantes. The French midfielder, is currently on loan at Saint-Etienne, where he spoke out on last season at Villa and about the clauses in his £8m deal. One of those being an additional payment should he make 30 appearances of more. Veretout said: "There’s only one midfielder on the bench, me, a midfielder on the pitch gets injured, and they bring on a forward, you can only question the decision.” And this Here by Dr. Xia in response. Quote Tony Xia responds angrily on Twitter to Jordan Veretout's claims about Aston Villa Aston Villa owner Tony Xia has taken to Twitter to respond angrily to Jordan Veretout's claims about the club and his absence from games last season. Midfielder Veretout joined Villa from Nantes in his native France during the summer transfer window of 2015, but failed to really live up to his billing. On Tuesday, Veretout told France Football, as quoted by Sport Witness, that he felt Villa didn't play him towards the end of last season to avoid paying a bonus to Nantes. "They told me they didn’t do it on purpose, but when you are a sub, there's only one midfielder on the bench - me - and a midfielder on the pitch gets injured and they bring on a forward, you can only question the decision,” said Veretout. Given that Veretout played 29 games for Villa, many assume that Villa would have been forced to pay Nantes a set fee agreed in the initial deal – and to avoid paying that, Villa left him out of their side and prevented him from making it to appearance number 30. Veretout is now back in France having been sent out on loan at Saint-Etienne for the duration of the season, and few expect him to ever return to Villa Park This afternoon, Villa owner Tony Xia took to Twitter to offer his response to Veretout's claims – and it's far to say he isn't too happy about the Frenchman's comments. Xia stated that, whilst Veretout's deal was negotiated under a different regime, he doesn't think that any previous manager would care about a potential bonus being paid out by the club. Xia added that Veretout's claims are 'nonsense', adding weight to the belief that the 23-year-old won't be returning to Villa Park at the end of the season. Looks like we won't be seeing him back after all then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay.P.A Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 19 minutes ago, AvfcRigo82 said: Interesting you ask. I have just came across this. Here And this Here by Dr. Xia in response. Looks like we won't be seeing him back after all then... Clean slate under the new manager for all players. The Dr was more pissed off with Gabby then Veretout, and he's still managed to make his way back in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 43 minutes ago, Jay.P.A said: Clean slate under the new manager for all players. The Dr was more pissed off with Gabby then Veretout, and he's still managed to make his way back in. True, but I feel on this occasion the bad taste that has been left in the players' mouth on this that he won't be wanting to return at the end of the season. Ideally we should sell him because some arsehole signed him on a 5 year contract that expires in 2020! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted November 3, 2016 Visiting Supporter Share Posted November 3, 2016 @AvfcRigo82 Thanks for that mate. A very interesting read. Doesn't look like he's coming back but what if no one wants to buy him at a suitable price for the Villa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted November 3, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted November 3, 2016 I just hope I never see these losers from last year again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 8 hours ago, striker said: @AvfcRigo82 Thanks for that mate. A very interesting read. Doesn't look like he's coming back but what if no one wants to buy him at a suitable price for the Villa? Then the club can have the option of mutually terminating his contract I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante_Lockhart Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Really could do with him IMO. Better than the dross we have at the moment. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czechlad Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 He isn't coming back for like the 50th time. We'd likely have to pay a fee to cancel his loan, he doesn't want to play in the english 2nd division, and seems to be doing well in France again. Doubt he'd be happy to uproot his life to come back to the club that almost ruined his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villa Stu Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 54 minutes ago, Dante_Lockhart said: Really could do with him IMO. Better than the dross we have at the moment. 6 minutes ago, Czechlad said: He isn't coming back for like the 50th time. We'd likely have to pay a fee to cancel his loan, he doesn't want to play in the english 2nd division, and seems to be doing well in France again. Doubt he'd be happy to uproot his life to come back to the club that almost ruined his career. He would definitely improve the midfield we have now, which isn't saying a lot, but have to agree that he isn't coming back to play in the championship. I would prefer us to get Hourihane and Lansbury in over veretout coming back here anyway, they have the experience of the championship, can score goals and will improve the balance of the squad. Veretout only ever looked average in a Villa shirt, with the exception of a couple of decent outings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 So frustrating that our best midfielder is out on loan...sigh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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