penguin Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Completely indefensible now, he's had more than enough time. Time for a change, it's evident that Lambert is out of his depth at this level of football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 **** it, I'd probably take mcleish. Oh no you didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El-Reacho Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Stat of the night RT @jonoblain: Leeds and Watford have had 5 managers between them since Aston Villa last scored a goal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 He's done a very poor job in very difficult circumstances. There is no point keeping him. Its too early in the season for the team to lose the fans and they will with Lambert still in charge. Find it hard to blame him tonight. Q.P.R. didn't look like scoring, but we made 2 mistakes and got punished. The problem is that we don't look like scoring either. Benteke looks rusty as anything and there was nothing between Sanchez/Westwood/Cleverley and the top striker to inspire much creativity. We kept the ball well and worked it into good positions but our final delivery was awful and we look toothless. Some fans just want the guy out no matter what - and I think that's what will get him the sack. People will lambast (no pun intended) him for literally anything. "We don't keep the ball enough and retain possession!" has been the most popular shout for ages and we've done that tonight. Laughable Ever heard the expression you can't polish a turd? Give it up The basic things that we needed to do from the back, we did tonight. Sanchez looked (for the most part) controlled on the ball and retained play well. The ball was played out from the back patiently, we worked it into decent crossing positions often - which, personally, I think is vital when you play Benteke - but our final ball was awful 95% of the time and we were utterly toothless. We only conceeded due to errors. It was a nailed on 0-0... that we lost. But your missing the point 0 - 0 was not an acceptable result tonight We were playing the worst side in the division with half their midfield missing At the beginning of the season we did a poll the majority on here expected a mid table finish 9th - 13th. This is his 3rd season the fans have had enough of the excuses we demand improvement you don't finish midtable by getting beat 2 - 0 to the worst side in the division do you Tactically he got it wrong tonight. Sanchez was still evidently not up to 90 mins of prem football tiredness crept in he should have been taken off 10 - 20 mins sooner so he didn't make the mistakes there was no merit him being on the pitch when we was 1 - 0 down anyway because we were chasing the game and he is a defensive minded player anyway and we needed creativity or another striker on to put more pressure on Dunne who has proven time and time again that he will make mistakes. Lambert has proven time and time again he is not up to the job and the man to take this club forward he needs to go I'm not missing the point at all. I said myself - at both the middle and back end of last season and start of this - that I'd give him up until Christmas to show signs of improvement. If they're not there, he should probably go. The highlighted bit I just don't agree with though. Sanchez was our best player and didn't look "evidently not up to 90 mins" to me. Hindsight is a wonderful thing, of course, after he makes those 3 mistakes in the space of a minute though. Similarly, our "creativity or another striker" was N'Zogbia/Cole/Bent. Now, sure, he could've made a change sooner rather than later, but none of those trio would give me particular hope of turning it around. There's a distinct lack of quality going forward - Lambert's fault or otherwise. He made a few mistakes at the end of the first half and the start of the second as well his concentration levels/awareness was what seemed to be the problem and that is usually a fatigue issue. We desperately needed to change things in the second half because plan A wasn't working just by bringing someone else on it would have forced Redknapp to adjust his side and perhaps expose a weakness but instead it was him taking the initiative by bringing Hoillett on who seemed a real bright spark for them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan501 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Skysports claim dressing room firmly closed do you think lamberts clothes been hidden after shower lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 I'd get rid now. Everton were in awful form and turned us over like a League 2 side. QPR were barely threatened despite all of our possession and they're bottom of the league with injuries. I'd get a new manager in to give him time with the team and make the changes he wants in Jan. If Lambert is here in Jan, you may as well keep him for the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villa101 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Yep, time to go. He can come back each year for 1 game a season at Anfield then **** off again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 What's the point? Another club record broken and just as bad as the last two years. There's no improvement, there's no progress and there won't be. Even if people say records don't matter. You have to look at all the negative records which have fallen. For a club as old as ours, to have so many records fall in less than three years is disgusting. Do you though? What needs to be looked at are the stats that matter - no goals scored in 5 games, 5 defeats in a row, 4 goals scored all season. As I said, whether or not it's happened before is completely irrelevant. Serious question, are people bothered more by the fact that we haven't scored in 5 games or the fact that a record has been broken? Serious answer....last 33 games...won 7. Drawn 5. Lost 21. Scored 26. Conceded 60. 26 points and a minus gd of 34 across 33 games which in turn follows a not much better season and a half. And the football shows no sign of improving. Why are you posting that? I'm fully aware of how bad things have been. The stats you're quoting are actually relevant. Just saying what bothers me more. Stats in themselves, irrelevant. Combined with those figures...pretty damning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 (edited) Is it still because we've got the shits? Or poor us, we've had some injuries? Or because we shouldn't expect to win against the big teams, or the 'easy' games now, it seems. Just why are we so shit? I don't really see the point of this. It is possible for there to be mitigating factors in some cases but in other cases we were just awful. Not everything is black and white. The mitigating factor is the manager. We are complete hamstrung by a totally inept, tactically sterile, incomprehensible, waste of space that is Lambert. All teams have mis fortunes, 'mitigating factors etc, but our ability to have been consistently rubbish under this buffoon is nothing to do with mitigating factors. Stop making excuses for shiteness. Just accept it and the reasons why. Stop looking at things in black and white then. I'm not making "excuses" I'm just pointing out that in SOME games there have been genuine mitigating factors, like having half of the team infected with a virus. Likewise with Chelsea and City, we didn't play particularly badly but we were outclassed by teams that are worth many times more than our squad. Games like tonight and Everton on the other hand there aren't really any excuses - we were shit and Lambert should bear the brunt of the blame for it - I've never denied this. As I said, stop looking at things in black and white. Just because some people don't take a blinkered view and think every single defeat is all Lambert's fault doesn't mean that they don't also accept that there have been many occasions where we've just been shit and Lambert is to blame, tonight being a prime example. I'm fed up of having words put into my mouth just because I don't take an extreme opinion. Edited October 27, 2014 by Mantis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 A dismal turd of a manager. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Lerner's head is firmly buried in the sand at this point. Saint Paul will carry the Villa torch until it all burns down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan4Life Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 been said on other forums that Lowton told Villa fans to "**** off" at the end of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condimentalist Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Bottom option for me. Let's see where we are in January. Clearly things need to improve. If they don't, I just hope Moyes is up for a challenge. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Disgraceful, it comes down to coaching and tactics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjw63 Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Is it still because we've got the shits? Or poor us, we've had some injuries? Or because we shouldn't expect to win against the big teams, or the 'easy' games now, it seems. Just why are we so shit?I don't really see the point of this. It is possible for there to be mitigating factors in some cases but in other cases we were just awful. Not everything is black and white. The mitigating factor is the manager. We are complete hamstrung by a totally inept, tactically sterile, incomprehensible, waste of space that is Lambert. All teams have mis fortunes, 'mitigating factors etc, but our ability to have been consistently rubbish under this buffoon is nothing to do with mitigating factors. Stop making excuses for shiteness. Just accept it and the reasons why. Well said that man 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacbuddies Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 The fans have the opportunity to vent their displeasure at the game against spurs on Sunday. Before anyone says "it will affect the players" I fail to see how they could score less than 0 and do worse than lose again which is a great possibility as we cannot possibly beat one of the 'top' teams can we! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayEm Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Willing to give him until January 1st, but big changes are needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post benireduk Posted October 27, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 27, 2014 So let's recap some of Lambert's "achievements" * Joint lowest points total in PL history last season * Record number of home defeats in the clubs history * 5 straight defeats without scoring. Another club record * Heaviest PL defeat to Chelsea 8-0 * Cup exits to Bradford,Millwall, Sheffield Utd & Leyton Orient Why is this incompetent fool still managing our club? 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Where's the "no I don't think we'd get anyone better" option? Jesus, there must be some really shit managers out there. @Mantis, exactly where I'm at...but that is not a good thing it's just the sorry state of where the villa is at and no good managers will want that job. @DK82, yes...yes there is...and it's all you're likely to attract and even available to the job. Pulis might be a shout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Good job we gave Lambert a 4-year deal and not Delph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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