jackbauer24 Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Whilst my opinion on Cleverley has softened to the point where if he stays I'd be quite content, I still don't think he's done enough to make us bend over backwards to keep him. If financial constraints remain in place then the difference in quality between Cleverley and Westwood is not enough for the difference in cost. Personally speaking, I think Westwood is more than capable of matching Cleverley. Despite nearly the same number of appearances (TC 26 & AW 22) the stats seem to suggest Westwood is out performing Cleverly, admittedly it's not been a great season though. Westwood has an assist, Cleverley doesn't despite being fit during out upturn in form. Cleverley has picked up 6 yellows to Westwood's 2. Westwood intercepts, clears and blocks more than Cleverly which perhaps only indicates a more defensive position despite having provided an assist. Westwood has made more key passes and is dispossessed less than Cleverley. I'm sure there are plenty of stats the other way round but I don't think enough to warrant Cleverley being chased and huge chunks of any budget being used on him. At his best, he's marginally better than Westwood but largely no different and often worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pembers Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Apparently he's wanted by us, West Ham, Spurs, Arsenal and 4 european clubs according to 'sky sources' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Apparently he's wanted by us, West Ham, Spurs, Arsenal and 4 european clubs according to 'sky sources' Do well to remember the unilateral criticisms from other football fans when he came to us. Not that it's such a big deal, but we seemed the only club showing real interest when he was seemingly done at man-u. Couple of good games for us and going to likes of arsenal could be a repeat of man-u. That said, I wouldn't wipe my arse with a print of "sky sources" articles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 He's been superb the last few weeks. I can't think of what's changed to bring about such an upward turn in form for the life of me..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 He's been superb the last few weeks. I can't think of what's changed to bring about such an upward turn in form for the life of me..... Lol, I wouldn't know either. But let's say it was for something like putting one self in the shop window, we also had a new manager at the same time. Of course, money talks so I'm gonna stick with the former. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 (edited) delete Edited April 15, 2015 by villa89 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Apparently he's wanted by us, West Ham, Spurs, Arsenal and 4 european clubs according to 'sky sources' Yeah - he wishes ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adw95 Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Whilst my opinion on Cleverley has softened to the point where if he stays I'd be quite content, I still don't think he's done enough to make us bend over backwards to keep him. If financial constraints remain in place then the difference in quality between Cleverley and Westwood is not enough for the difference in cost. Personally speaking, I think Westwood is more than capable of matching Cleverley. Despite nearly the same number of appearances (TC 26 & AW 22) the stats seem to suggest Westwood is out performing Cleverly, admittedly it's not been a great season though. Westwood has an assist, Cleverley doesn't despite being fit during out upturn in form. Cleverley has picked up 6 yellows to Westwood's 2. Westwood intercepts, clears and blocks more than Cleverly which perhaps only indicates a more defensive position despite having provided an assist. Westwood has made more key passes and is dispossessed less than Cleverley. I'm sure there are plenty of stats the other way round but I don't think enough to warrant Cleverley being chased and huge chunks of any budget being used on him. At his best, he's marginally better than Westwood but largely no different and often worse. That's why it's more important to watch a game with your eyes and not stare at the numbers. It's worth noting Westwood's assist was from a free kick, when playing he takes the majority of set pieces... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arj Guy Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Arsenal? Haven't they got enough central midfielders. Ridiculous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Spurs have a collection of them and always do. Id love see their midfield turnover for last 10 years as i assume its really high Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Cleverley has a very good agent I doubt these clubs are actually interested just want it to appear that way so he can ask for bigger wages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 but English international with Champions League experience on a free is very good business especially with quota rules coming in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 I still think he'll end up at Everton. Would imagine one of those european clubs would be Sociedad as Moyes loves him and they want Danny Ings aswell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 no way is he good enough for arsenal or liverpool average player still in my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 He has been much better in recent games, but he started from a low base. I am still not sure of his worth, and would hope we might get better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samjp26 Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 This guy is an absolute machine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 I wonder if Sherwood can convince him to sign on full-time. He certainly looks to be getting better and better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poitier Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Probably his best game for us today. Not sure why he would want to leave us to go to another middling club now that he is playing so well under Sherwood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Unbelievable pressing today, absolutely all over the midfield. Superb. Best Villa performance from him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samjp26 Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Probably his best game for us today. Not sure why he would want to leave us to go to another middling club now that he is playing so well under Sherwood. He and Delph compliment each other ridiculously well, and we're also starting to see the technical side of Cleverley's game - which is very good. He is more than just a runner, but boy can he run, from kick-off till the whistle blew I don't think he stood still. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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