The Fun Factory Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Ireland's gone, if we sell Benteke in the summer for 20 mil then surely there should be a bit of money down the Villa Park sofa? As ever it is the wages will be the sticking point. I was half joking, but hopefully we don't have to base any spending plans on selling Benteke. Why not that is how Spurs have got nearish the big boys? Carrick, Berbs, Modric, Bale etc,etc. Same at Everton- they have sold Rodwell and Fellani for nearly 40 million and at present play better without them. Sell at the right time and reinvest correctly. That is how to build a side up when you have not got the resources to compete with the top teams. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 (edited) Nice deal. If it is only to be until the end of the season because like Walker he does so well with us that his club take him back or they sign someone else and he moves to a club that are willing to offer him more wages and Chelsea a bigger fee than we would then at least like Walker he can do a lot for us whilst he is with us. How about the team running out to "Ca Plane Pour Moi" for the rest of the season to make him feel at home? Welcome to VP Ryan! Edited January 17, 2014 by John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumstopdogs Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Pleased with the loan signing and potentially a player we could look to sign at the end of the loan period. It also suggests Lambert does not have faith in the two left backs he signed. Regardless, a bit of positive news for a change! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderPower_14 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Really good loan deal for us, great work Villa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juteface Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 I nearly spat my coffee out when I read this at work. In my designated work break period of course. Very pleased at this piece of business. A quick job with no faffing around. I hope that his will become permanent in the summer with a cheeky bid of around 8 to 10 million?. Chelsea will probably decide to let him rot in the reserves though.As Dyke said on Danny Baker's 5 live show last week, English players need to play in order for them to progress. The lad will be 25 soon, Chelsea seem not too sure on him. This would be a great club for him to join to get back into the England set up. But can we afford him? No. Not even maybe? This man says yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Some people seem to have a model that we sell off the current remaining high earners, then we can start hiring high wage players again. That's not what it's about, I fear. We sell off the current high earners and then pay low wages to everyone for ever. or sell off the current high earners that add no value to the team and get in the odd high earner that does add value to the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Problem being that no one has mentioned yet. Is we start building a good team and other clubs will want our players. If Bertrand performs great and he becomes for sale, we would'nt be able to keep him here. i.e We did'nt even have Benteke a season and he was nearly gone. verdict, even if we start having success its going to be hard to keep it. .....but the trick is we sign more good players than bad or develop them at BMH and turn them in to good. when the vultures circle and make us offers we can't refuse.... "we go again" but by repeating this process we will gradually be shopping at a higher level than we currently are. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREAT_BEARD_OF_ZEUS Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 I wouldn't blame Villa for not having a deal in place to sign him permanently. It's very rare a loaning team are willing to do this - whats in it for them? Think about it, its basically a transfer with a money back guarantee if he's shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted January 18, 2014 Moderator Share Posted January 18, 2014 when the vultures circle and make us offers we can't refuse.... "we go again" but by repeating this process we will gradually be shopping at a higher level than we currently are.Zakly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Some people seem to have a model that we sell off the current remaining high earners, then we can start hiring high wage players again. That's not what it's about, I fear. We sell off the current high earners and then pay low wages to everyone for ever. or sell off the current high earners that add no value to the team and get in the odd high earner that does add value to the team. Even if that was the policy (and I doubt very much if it is) do we think would Ryan Bertrand count as a rare high earner who adds value to the team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa-revolution Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Yes Yes Yes all day long to this signing. Nice work Claret & Blue boys. keep 'em all coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabby Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Ireland's gone, if we sell Benteke in the summer for 20 mil then surely there should be a bit of money down the Villa Park sofa? As ever it is the wages will be the sticking point. I was half joking, but hopefully we don't have to base any spending plans on selling Benteke. Why not that is how Spurs have got nearish the big boys? Carrick, Berbs, Modric, Bale etc,etc. Same at Everton- they have sold Rodwell and Fellani for nearly 40 million and at present play better without them. Sell at the right time and reinvest correctly. That is how to build a side up when you have not got the resources to compete with the top teams. Everton have received almost 50mill in 2 years ..Fellani £27mil Rodwell £12mil Aniechbie £6mil Jelevic £6.5mil in the same period our biggest transfer sale was Collins for £2.5 mil which is one reason they are miles ahead of us now as they have rebuilt wisely. We will have to sell Benteke to build again we just have to hope the money is better invested than the cash we got for Milner / Downing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan-scott Posted January 18, 2014 VT Supporter Share Posted January 18, 2014 Welcome Ryan. Could be a great loan signing for the rest of the season, a step in the right direction. I just hope if he does well we can sign him permanently. He'll be 25 by then and wanting regular first team football and hopefully will have enjoyed his 6 months with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimzk5 Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 I nearly spat my coffee out when I read this at work. In my designated work break period of course. Very pleased at this piece of business. A quick job with no faffing around. I hope that his will become permanent in the summer with a cheeky bid of around 8 to 10 million?. Chelsea will probably decide to let him rot in the reserves though.As Dyke said on Danny Baker's 5 live show last week, English players need to play in order for them to progress. The lad will be 25 soon, Chelsea seem not too sure on him. This would be a great club for him to join to get back into the England set up. But can we afford him? No. Not even maybe? This man says yes. I really don't see what hollow man has to do with any of this 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chappy Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 I know next to nothing about this player. The overwhelming positivity on here suggests he will be a good thing for us though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dakid007 Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 If he does well I think we could see Luna on his way out and Bertrand staying. Bertrand will be in no rush to go to a so called big team to be not playing when he could be at villa park in front of 37k fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Ireland's gone, if we sell Benteke in the summer for 20 mil then surely there should be a bit of money down the Villa Park sofa? As ever it is the wages will be the sticking point. I was half joking, but hopefully we don't have to base any spending plans on selling Benteke. Why not that is how Spurs have got nearish the big boys? Carrick, Berbs, Modric, Bale etc,etc. Same at Everton- they have sold Rodwell and Fellani for nearly 40 million and at present play better without them. Sell at the right time and reinvest correctly. That is how to build a side up when you have not got the resources to compete with the top teams. Everton have received almost 50mill in 2 years ..Fellani £27mil Rodwell £12mil Aniechbie £6mil Jelevic £6.5mil in the same period our biggest transfer sale was Collins for £2.5 mil which is one reason they are miles ahead of us now as they have rebuilt wisely. We will have to sell Benteke to build again we just have to hope the money is better invested than the cash we got for Milner / Downing Very true and it all started with the Rooney money, before that they were little different to us, Moyes was no genius, he was just lucky enough to be able to sell one. We definitely should do the same with the first chance we get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Good signing. Maybe only a loan deal but anything that helps us out is welcomed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Starts. No messing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samjp26 Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 He'll get an assist with a cross to Benteke's noggin today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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