Neil Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 54 minutes ago, DCJonah said: I think Gestede and Gabby can cause more problems than Kozak. We don't need problems on the pitch, we need goals and the only guy scoring ATM can't get in the side. Eat, sleep, bang head on the wall and repeat 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 8 minutes ago, Neil said: We don't need problems on the pitch, we need goals and the only guy scoring ATM can't get in the side. Eat, sleep, bang head on the wall and repeat Ayew is playing upfront and his scoring has improved. Kozak is scoring against u21 championship team defenders. Do you not think Garde would pick him if its so clear he's going to do well? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bose Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 Should definitely be on the bench on Sunday. Could be a good option to have. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 8 minutes ago, Neil said: We don't need problems on the pitch, we need goals and the only guy scoring ATM can't get in the side. Eat, sleep, bang head on the wall and repeat Ayew is playing upfront and his scoring has improved. Kozak is scoring against u21 championship team defenders. Do you not think Garde would pick him if its so clear he's going to do well? Why are bringing ayew back in to it? Again, no one is suggesting dropping ayew for Kozak And I'm hoping garde watched him for the under 21s and yes it was vs defenders that he should be beating but that's not what he should be looking for, it's sharpness, it's movement, it's quality when you do get that chance and IMO the 2 goals show that I don't think Kozak is the answer and I desperately hope we sign a new striker in jan but at the same time I really don't understand how or why he hasn't been given a sniff, especially considering how bad gestede has been Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 He should be coming on as a sub at least. He certainly can poached goals. Couple of times v Watford a corner and few crosses rolled along the 6 yard box and no one read it so I don't really see a poacher amongst the strikers we play. Ayew is currently best performing but he does his best work outside the box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TB Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 (edited) I think Kozak / Ayew might be an interesting combination, they might complement each other really well. Creative/attacking midfielders (I don't see Gil/Grealish actually scoring that many goals themselves) need players up front that can work the defence - drawing the defenders out of position by strength/positions/agility/speed, making themselves available for a pass, being aware of and reacting to their team mates' positions/movements, finding goal-scoring positions - in short, displaying footballing intelligence. Ayew has had three months getting up to speed in a new league. I remember him getting some stick on here earlier on, s most of the other summer signings did, but Benteke did too, for that matter - I'm not comparing the players, btw. Kozak had four months before his injury - Tibia/fibia fracture with a botched first operation, then a new pin, and another round of re-convalescence and training. A tough, confidence-sapping task. He may never become good enough, but to me, he's shown that he possesses enough footballing intelligence to be given a chance. Has Gabby displayed this kind of footballing intelligence in any way? Gestede? (ok, a throw-in...) Traore? His assists to Kozak in the last U21 match sounds promising. Long may it continue. (Somewhat OT: In Larry Niven's novel Ringworld, the alien carnivore Speaker-To-Animals insults a member of a herbivore (but sapient) species by saying: "How much intelligence does it require to sneak up on a leaf?". If you're faster/stronger/more skilful/richer and thus are able to outperform your opponent in every physical/economical way, you don't necessarily have to be more intelligent as well. If you actually have to compete, intelligence and co-operation becomes vital.) I hope Garde eventually can come up with an intelligent 1st 11 that (hopefully) negates individual weaknesses somewhat and also makes use of their individual abilities, making the sum greater than the individual parts. Unfortunately, I cannot see him doing that in time for us to survive this season, no matter how much he's allowed to spend in January. And of course, he may never be able to do so - but I think he has a significantly better chance than his predecessor ever had. Edited December 10, 2015 by TB Typos - too tired Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 8 hours ago, villa4europe said: Why are bringing ayew back in to it? Again, no one is suggesting dropping ayew for Kozak And I'm hoping garde watched him for the under 21s and yes it was vs defenders that he should be beating but that's not what he should be looking for, it's sharpness, it's movement, it's quality when you do get that chance and IMO the 2 goals show that I don't think Kozak is the answer and I desperately hope we sign a new striker in jan but at the same time I really don't understand how or why he hasn't been given a sniff, especially considering how bad gestede has been He said the only guy scoring can't get in the side. That's why I mentioned ayew. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan_007 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Yep U21's and all that jazz. But these are tidy finishes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 9 hours ago, DCJonah said: Ayew is playing upfront and his scoring has improved. Kozak is scoring against u21 championship team defenders. Do you not think Garde would pick him if its so clear he's going to do well? Only thing I can tell you, is he's picking some players who're doing so badly (not scoring). To the point it makes a mockery of kozak who isn't doing so badly because he scores against opposition put in front of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 I love Libor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 kozak looks really cheesed off doesnt he? should be on bench at least in my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan_007 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Yep. Kind of like what's the point in me scoring. It gets me nowhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillanousOne Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 I don't have a lot against Gestede, but he is quite limited. Even Ayew who I think is superb isn't an out and out striker. Kozak is a natural striker who stays up front and has the basic skills, his flick ons to Traore were sweet. I am not saying he is the saviour, or even a good striker, i don't know, i don't think any of us know at the moment what he can do at Premiership level all these years on from his debut. But I think he is a good option to try. Traore looks like a speeding tank also, so badly want to see him on the pitch again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 @RobJonesSport: Garde on Kozak: Sometimes scoring goals in the U21s isn't enough. I will speak to Libor & we may let him go. #AVFC Garde hates him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted December 10, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted December 10, 2015 I assume by "let him go" he means let him go to Celtic, as they're showing the interest, as opposed to sacking him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 5 minutes ago, Wainy316 said: @RobJonesSport: Garde on Kozak: Sometimes scoring goals in the U21s isn't enough. I will speak to Libor & we may let him go. #AVFC Garde hates him! Jesus, is that quote for real? You couldn't make it up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted December 10, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted December 10, 2015 (edited) Ah ffs. If we let him go out on loan whilst continuing to play Rudy I will be disappointed. As for "sometimes scoring goals in the U21's isn't enough".... well he can't score in the Premier League if he never plays?!? Edited December 10, 2015 by PieFacE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 3 minutes ago, PieFacE said: Ah ffs. If we let him go out on loan whilst continuing to play Rudy I will be disappointed. As for "sometimes scoring goals in the U21's isn't enough".... well he can't score in the Premier League if he never plays?!? Seriously, I hope this guy knows what he's doing. You'd look at our position now, you'd consider the facts available to us and think this guy was off his rocker. But obviously he gets to see them in training, and he's a premiership manager for a reason....one would hope. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sexbelowsound Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Maybe loan him out to the Championship so we can develop another striker suited to the league in preparation for next season....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 2 hours ago, Demitri_C said: kozak looks really cheesed off doesnt he? should be on bench at least in my opinion he's not the only one to be fair. you look again and it seems the only ones that seem not cheesed off are the kids. the first teamers looked pissed right off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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