useless Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 (edited) Well they beat Spurs we didn't, against Arsenal we had the advantage of playing half of that match against ten men whereas they didn't unless I'm mistaken, so again that in theory would have been an easier fixture for us. In addition they've also played Leicester probably the best team outside of the top six, and Liverpool. Edited September 29, 2019 by useless On whether Newcastle have had a tougher start than us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 13 minutes ago, villa4europe said: That's the myth of Steve bruce Defensive manager that can't organise a defence I'm still not sure what it is that he brings to teams Dusting down capabilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Looking forward to us drawing with them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andym Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 12 minutes ago, useless said: Well they beat Spurs we didn't, against Arsenal we had the advantage of playing half of that match against ten men whereas they didn't unless I'm mistaken, so again that in theory would have been an easier fixture for us. In addition they've also played Leicester probably the best team outside of the top six, and Liverpool. You keep saying this but its not really true is it? They've played 8, 17, 5, 20, 1, 16 and 3 We've played 5, 7, 15, 9, 4, 8, and 10 They played spurs and arsenal at home, we played them away No way have they had a much tougher start. Basically, neither team is doing very well 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 (edited) Comparing positions is futile at this stage of the season, West Ham were third earlier today, Bournemouth are up there as well, come the end of the season both teams will be midtable at best. We've had an easier start than them both in terms of fixtures and in terms having an advantage of playing against ten men in some of our games, no point in denying it really. Edited September 29, 2019 by useless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 4 minutes ago, useless said: Comparing positions is futile at this stage of the season, West Ham were third earlier today, Bournemouth are up there as well, come the end of the season both teams will be midtable at best. We've had an easier start than them both in terms of fixtures and in terms having an advantage of playing against ten men in some of our games, no point in denying it really. The main difference is Bruce already looks clueless and can come up with nothing other than rolling sleeves up etc, whereas Dean can clearly analyse where we are falling short and shows some hope of eventually getting it right. This is on top of last season's evidence where Dean made Bruce look a chump with pretty much the same set of players. Even if we go down we've already shown we will actually compete against pretty much any opposition we play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 (edited) Not saying that Bruce is a better manager than Smith I'd rather have almost any other manager I can think of than Bruce, and Smith is someone I wanted as our manager ever since he was at Walsall. Just saying that currently we're doing just as bad as them (Newcastle). Edited September 29, 2019 by useless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 11 minutes ago, useless said: Not saying that Bruce is a better manager than Smith I'd rather have almost any other manager I can think of than Bruce, and Smith is someone I wanted as our manager ever since he was at Walsall. Just saying that currently we're doing just as bad as them (Newcastle). In points yes but we have performed well in every match, they haven't. We just don't know how to see out games. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 29 minutes ago, andym said: Basically, neither team is doing very well Neither team has a decent points tally If you were looking for one to have things click get some luck and find some form you wouldn't say it's them I think same points = were as bad as they are is really harsh on us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Looks like goals will be their problem - but I guess they were always likely to be in and around relegation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 And to think of all the defenders Bruce had on this message board. He's a brutal brutal manager who did a terrible job with us, there's is no defending him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Held off after they immediately signed him in case their scouts had somehow pulled a blinder. But what in the **** were they thinking buying a less than 1 in 3 goal striker from the German league for £40m another £5m got West Ham Haller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Well it doesn't help that they got Wesley 2.0 up front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Brucey feeling a bit down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted September 29, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted September 29, 2019 (edited) Post match interview on MOTD2 was (paraphrasing): “you can talk about tactics, but we’ve got to roll wor sleeves up.” Seriously. And then the interviewer, clearly a media mate, patted him on the back! Edited September 29, 2019 by fightoffyour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 No shots on target Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 1 hour ago, villa89 said: And to think of all the defenders Bruce had on this message board. He's a brutal brutal manager who did a terrible job with us, there's is no defending him. The same sort of messages will pop up if we don't take 6 points off them this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 To be fair, enough shade has been thrown in this thread that it will be somewhat embarrassing if we don't finish clearly above them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 1 minute ago, HanoiVillan said: To be fair, enough shade has been thrown in this thread that it will be somewhat embarrassing if we don't finish clearly above them. Depends on if Bruce stays on as manager for a while. If we don't finish above them then, it would be a failure of a season. But if they get someone like Allardyce within the next couple of months, then I wouldn't bet against them finishing above us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imavillan Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 (edited) this blokes sussed Bruce out....cabbages at the ready !!!! Edited September 30, 2019 by imavillan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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