sne Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 8 minutes ago, Zatman said: IFK are rocket polishers better teams in the city Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchard Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 Apparently holding up the search for a manager. Like he hasn't done enough damage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan4Life Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/aston-villas-new-manager-search-7769571 Quote Relegated Aston Villa will delay the appointment of a new manager until next season’s budgets have been sanctioned by owner Randy Lerner, writes Neil Moxley in the Sunday People. The club is busy drawing up a short-list and, as we told you three weeks ago, Nigel Pearson’s name is on it. But senior officials at Villa Park have received no guidance from their American boss Lerner as to what they can spend – and that is proving a huge stumbling block. Villa, whose drop into the Championship became official on Saturday when they lost to Manchester United, would like to begin the interview process but realise that the amount of cash available to spend will be a key question on the lips of any would-be boss. And with chairman Steve Hollis and finance guru Mervyn King unable to provide an answer to it, any meeting would be pointless. Ideally, the club would like to appoint before the end of the season. But as no-one has any idea of what the new manager can or cannot spend to try to take them back up, this crucial question would remain unanswered at the interview stage. Pearson has backing from incoming Villa advisor Adrian Bevington, who worked with the ex-centre-half when he was a press officer at Middlesbrough almost two decades ago. Former Football Association chief David Bernstein is also known to be keen – although whether his backing is in support of his former Wembley colleague Bevington is unclear. However, Pearson will have questions to answer regarding his exit from Leicester last summer. Villa’s ideal candidate will have proven experience in the Championship and an excellent knowledge of the players needed to return the club to the Premier League at the first time of asking. Other names that will be discussed include Burnley’s Sean Dyche, Ipswich boss Mick McCarthy and Simon Grayson, currently in charge at Preston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ChrisVillan Posted April 16, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2016 I can help with confirming the budgets so hopefully this should speed things along: **** all. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 Is there any actual proof that "knowing the league" helps? Moyes doesn't "know the league" but he'd be a better option than most of the names bandied about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubby Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 32 minutes ago, Mantis said: Is there any actual proof that "knowing the league" helps? Moyes doesn't "know the league" but he'd be a better option than most of the names bandied about. Preston? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 Just now, Tubby said: Preston? It's not recent. The argument of some is that he's been out of it too long although I think that's BS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliffy Biro Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 With all the stuff going on the last few months and now our relegation and no manager the guy still hasn't shown his face or so much as said a word. Total and utter **** coward, get **** Randy. Genuinely hope you are visiting food banks in a year or two's time you detestable **** cretin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 Do we know Lerner is alright? I mean, all this lack of communication. They have checked he's not been locked in his own bathroom for 8 months? I'd hate to think he's been sat in his own loo with a broken door knob, surviving on toothpaste and toilet water, wondering how Sherwood is getting on this season. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Fun Factory Posted April 16, 2016 Share Posted April 16, 2016 9 hours ago, OutByEaster? said: Ellis was malignant, his intention was to milk the club for his own benefit - that was his aim - to use Aston Villa to make money for Doug Ellis. Lerner is benign, his intention was to make the club better, he failed at that and now his intention is to find a way out, he's willing to lose a lot of money to do that. Competence is something different and you can certainly argue that a man with no more ambition than to ensure his cash cow could still be milked was so much more competent than a man who would have liked a football club to succeed that he actually managed to run the football club more successfully for his own benefit than Lerner managed for ours. Ellis was better at running a football club, Lerner had better intention. Ultimately, Aston Villa run reasonably well by Doug Ellis, entirely for the benefit of Doug Ellis has proved more successful than Aston Villa run for the benefit of Aston Villa by Randy Lerner. More or less agree with this. Lerner could have been so much better whereas Ellis was just, well, Ellis. I think Doug wanted Villa to do well but perhaps more importantly done well under Doug Ellis. Lerner wanted to be the kind benefactor showering us with gifts of a new north stand, trophies, and champions league football. Unfortunately other than just giving a huge wad of cash to a decent football manager for 4 seasons, he had no idea how to achieve this. Different eras etc but no way Lambert would have had lasted so long under Doug- if that would have made any difference though? The only positive is hopefully the new board has a better chance to know what they are doing and Lerner influence at Villa is now minimal. But that is a very,very, small positive at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post John Posted April 16, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted April 16, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, Pilchard said: Apparently holding up the search for a manager. Like he hasn't done enough damage I agree 110%. He needs to act now on appointing a new manager. What is the point in appointing a new board when they are unable to act because the "custodian" cannot be bothered to let them know what money if any a new manager would have to work with? He has failed as a "custodian" (does he actually know the meaning of the word) and I have to wonder how relegation fits in with the second of his 5-year plans (if he had one)? If he wants to sell the club at anything like the price he wanted he will need to get it back up within a year. That will need a good manager with the ability to hire and fire as well as say £25m for new players on top of anything we get for players a new manager decides he can do without. I would guess the board will eventually be forced to go for a cheap option namely a manager that has a record of making players perform better than they have previously done, of making a silk purse from a pig's ear and of working on a shoestring budget. I doubt Pearson would go for that although our "custodian" would like not having to pay a current club any compensation so I expect Rowett, Hughton and others to come into consideration after the end of the season by which time our "custodian" may have took the time to tell his new board how little they along with our new manager will be expected to work with. Edited April 16, 2016 by John 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2016/apr/16/aston-villa-relegation-randy-lerner An interesting read indeed. Thought some of you might be interested. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted April 17, 2016 Moderator Share Posted April 17, 2016 The budgets don't need to be massive, we're about to sell off a shed load of players that won't want to be here next season - all we need is a commitment that the money from sales goes back into the club, it'd be disappointing if that commitment wasn't in place, particularly as selling these players and reinvesting was part of the reason we signed the group we did in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeMcKenna Posted April 17, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted April 17, 2016 2 hours ago, Villan4Life said: http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/aston-villas-new-manager-search-7769571 If true, this backs up what I have been saying for a while. Lerner is still totally pulling the strings, Hollis is just a puppet and despite their credentials the so called 'football board' are little more than window dressing to appease the fans but have no power to act. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 9 minutes ago, MikeMcKenna said: If true, this backs up what I have been saying for a while. Lerner is still totally pulling the strings, Hollis is just a puppet and despite their credentials the so called 'football board' are little more than window dressing to appease the fans but have no power to act. Of course he is still pulling the strings,. Hollis is just a puppet . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 5 hours ago, MikeMcKenna said: If true, this backs up what I have been saying for a while. Lerner is still totally pulling the strings, Hollis is just a puppet and despite their credentials the so called 'football board' are little more than window dressing to appease the fans but have no power to act. And this is why Krulak is there, to keep things in check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 5 hours ago, MikeMcKenna said: If true, this backs up what I have been saying for a while. Lerner is still totally pulling the strings, Hollis is just a puppet and despite their credentials the so called 'football board' are little more than window dressing to appease the fans but have no power to act. Yup, Just re-arranging the deckchairs on the Titanic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 On 12 April 2016 at 21:32, DCJonah said: How can we blame a man who has had nothing to do with the team for 6 years. And we smashed our club transfer fee months after he left us in this supposed complete financial mess. For all the rhetoric and blame. When Martin O'Neill walked.....Lerners heart walked out too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeMcKenna Posted April 17, 2016 VT Supporter Share Posted April 17, 2016 (edited) 58 minutes ago, TRO said: For all the rhetoric and blame. When Martin O'Neill walked.....Lerners heart walked out too. Pity the rest of Lerner body didn't go as well. Ultimately it wasn't his heart that was the problem, it was his brain. I am far from a suspicious man but he is a curse on our house. Edited April 17, 2016 by MikeMcKenna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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