Folski Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Stories I've heard about why Mon left range from wanting cash to buy Aidan McGeady (waste of money), not getting the Milner money and finally being told to shift players who's wages were too much considering they were sitting on the bench a la Beye. None of which for me, make his position untenable less than a week before the season starts, which in my case is unforgivable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiezels Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 +1 on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 The timing of his walk out was effectively sabotage He had it planned for months allegedly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Stories I've heard about why Mon left range from wanting cash to buy Aidan McGeady (waste of money), not getting the Milner money and finally being told to shift players who's wages were too much considering they were sitting on the bench a la Beye. None of which for me, make his position untenable less than a week before the season starts, which in my case is unforgivable.In my view a thread about Paul Lambert is not the place to recycle all the usual unsubstantiated speculation about the reasons for the departure of a manager three years ago. It is so dispiriting that some posters seem unable to move on and focus on the future under Lambert but must keep returning to this rubbish. It was understandable over the past couple of seasons when the board's disastrous attempts to get a new manager seemed to be plunging us towards the Championship. But we now have a manager who is giving us some hope for the future - just like MON once did - and I can see no point in constantly dredging up the past, especially when no-one really knows the facts about MON's departure. So...GOING BACK ON TOPIC, the good things for me about our last two games are first that they demonstrate Lambert's ability to out-think his opponents and come up with a game plan designed to cancel out the strengths of the particular team he is playing against; secondly, the fact that all the players seem clear about the game plan and motivated to give it their best and, thirdly, the way he has got wee Barry Bannan playing to his potential again. He really did look a lost cause last season but a few more matches like Saturday's and I will begin to expect great things of him again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted September 19, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted September 19, 2012 I agree on everything except Bannan. I remain thoroughly unimpressed with him to be honest. He's ok, he'll do for now. But he doesn't strike me as the future of our midfield. Anyway, Lambert's passion has impressed me too. Last 30 seconds against Swansea. We lost the ball, it led to nothing and we were obviously going to win. But Lambert was apoplectic about losing possession. He was going mental. That coupled with his jog to the Holte End followed by what looked like a genuinely delighted fist pump showed me that his heart is certainly in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Bannan has 2 assists in 2 games The boy is contributing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyjavfc Posted September 19, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted September 19, 2012 I must admit I was ready to cast Bannan, Clarke and Delph into the same 'not good enough' boat as Delfonzo after last season/the Everton game. Great to see at least two of those players have suprised me under Lambert. The jury is still out on Delph, but I still remember his debut season and live in hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted September 19, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted September 19, 2012 Bannan has 2 assists in 2 games The boy is contributing Yep, which is admirable. But he needs to learn to cut out the hollywood passes. The majority of the time when he gets the ball he'll try and ping it to the strikers or play some audacious through ball. If they ever come off, it's great. But more often than not it's cherry picked by the opposition defence. He's definitely talented, and if he learns through experience he can make it. I'm just not THAT impressed by him so far this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCforever1991 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Hopefully Lambert is trying to weed that out of his game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolteExile Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 We're the 7th biggest spender in the last 10 years.. it was fine. But the third biggest spenders in the league during his time with us, outspending the likes of Liverpool, Man U, Arsenal and Tottingham. So, no. Not fine at all, really. At the time he joined, the likes of Blackburn, Everton and Fulham were qualifying for Europe By the time he left, we had -in fairness- seen of the challenge of Blackburn. And finished ahead of Everton. Once. A fair return, for the money invested re transfer fees and wages? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 No, he needed to land a trophy for that level of spend. At least one League Cup. The Peace Cup cannot really count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOTTI-THE-GOD Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 No, he needed to land a trophy for that level of spend. At least one League Cup. The Peace Cup cannot really count. You do realise the Peace cup won us more money than if we'd of won the league cup right ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 It's not about the money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 It's not about the moneyWe just want to make the world dance, forget about the price tag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted September 19, 2012 Moderator Share Posted September 19, 2012 Arrrghhh nooooooo. Come on Barbie, let's go party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted September 20, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted September 20, 2012 It's not about the moneyWe just want to make the world dance, forget about the price tag Haha thanks for that, my first laugh of the day on a particularly miserable Thursday in Manchester. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 This is the most depressing thread ever. Open a discussion about some chap called Paul Lambert and people just want to talk about some guy called Martin. If you insist, however, I'd like to see the figures to back up the claim that we were third highest spenders in the Premiership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Being the 3/4 highest spenders for a couple of seasons means nothing if your squad is complete rubbish before you start spending. Man City were the highest spenders in the world for a couple of seasons but they don't have the best squad in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markavfc40 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Being the 3/4 highest spenders for a couple of seasons means nothing if your squad is complete rubbish before you start spending. Man City were the highest spenders in the world for a couple of seasons but they don't have the best squad in the world. Spot on. Over the next 4 years we could spend 100 mill net and Man Utd, Man City, Chelsea, Arsenal, Spurs could spend half that and still have much better squads as they are starting off with much better squads. We were in the same position in 2006 and I think an 80 mill net spend in the following 4 seasons got us about what you'd expect - three 6th place finishes on the spin, challenging for top four up until the final few games of the seaon on a couple of occasions. Especially when you consider when finsihing sixth three times we had the 8th, 6th and 6th highest wage bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted September 20, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted September 20, 2012 Meh - Take it to the MON thread. We have the same discussion over and over, and it just goes round in circles. The same people moan about MON, and the same people defend him... and it's all getting extremely dull now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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