Pilchard Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Seeing as he hasn't got one yet. Firstly let me say this before I'm jumped on. He was my number one choice as manager. I was delighted he was made manager. I think he is a talented manager. This is not me saying I don't want him here. I also recognize that at least eight of the first team players seen today are not good enough to play in the Premier League. However - he needs to take some of the blame today's defeat. Delfounseo should have not been started ahead of Weiman - but Lambert is just going through the process the last two have - learning what they did - Delph, Ireland, Delfounseo aren't good enough, Clark still has an awful lot to learn and Bent is useless up front on his own. But his decisions in midfield today were incredibly stupid. Herd at right wing?! Bannan in the middle up against Fellani? Bizarre. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaGoMarching Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Wow, 8 who are the three that are capable in your opinion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
returnofthemac Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Agree Pilch..Team Selection definitely played a part today. Baker is a far better fit in the back with Vlaar, Lichaj should have been left back. Bannan and Fonz will never make it so should be no more than bench warmers. I hope Lambert isn't going to be left out to dry because no Manager could take this lot on and finish anywhere higher than the bottom 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacbuddies Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Either he was promised major investment to take the job or he is a little naive. I hope it is the former and not the latter or we are in the shit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villaonsea Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 holman delph and ireland should have started todays game. I dont mind selection suprises, but bannan against fellaini? at least fabian would have got stuck in and injured the tool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeepDish Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 I am a bit puzzled by some of the actions myself. Looks almost like he is stilling seeing what the players are capable of, like some pre season stuff, but with the competitiveness. I sure hope he saw the same as us today and go hunting for players to fit with his ideas and his team. I think he has been prudent and good in the transfer dealings. Vlaar at 3.2 mill, El Ahmadi at 2 mill looks like good buys. More of the same, please. (MON would probably have paid 15 mill for two players of the same caliber, only they would have been British and with PL experience) His dealing of Warnock seems harsh, but I think he is trying to motivate him and Hutton to accept other offers they would not accepted if they felt welcome. If successful, it will both give some cash in for the players and free up 70 000 pounds a week. I like the tough stance. He said “I’ve got to work with lads that are young and I’ve got to get them into my way of thinking as well. The squad will evolve – that’s normal in football. about the situation, which show that he is eager to make his changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KHV Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 I was not a fan of Lambert and he was not who I wanted here. However he is and I am prepared to give him a chance. I thought tactically he got it wrong at west ham and played into their hands by trying to go through the middle. Today he changed the system and the personnel and again got it totally wrong. Before he arrived people were saying how he was tactically clever but in his first two games he has made massive selection and tactical blunders. I dont think he has handled Hutton and Warnock. I am not impressed at all by what he has done so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanvilla_1994 Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 I think he's a better manager than the last 2 muppets but he needs to be backed by Lerner to have a chance of succeeding. This squad is relegation material, We can see it and hopefully Lerner/ Lambert can see it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClarrieBlue Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 The back four, after the sending off looked better. Clarke proved what he is , a good footballer who is not good enough to play centre half or midfield. Bannan and Delfouneso are championship players at best. N'Zogbia is a busted flush,his heads gone. If we don't sign anyone PL should start with Guzan, Lowton Vlaar Baker ,Lichaj. Holman El Ahmadi, Ireland Delph, Weimann, Bent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyBM Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 the one thing that has always interested me is what managers say individually to players in training, to motivate them, to unearth their best style, etc because tbh, with makoun going awol, herd being abit rough around the edges still, and although im not a fan of delph, alot of money was still spent on him, so PL needs to tell him to toughen the f**k up and get some tackles in, afterall, he hasnt got much ability concerning PL, he was a signing that i didnt expect, although maybe i should of done as lerner likes to sign young managers so far, whatever he has tried with this team, nothign has worked, not his fault hes just inherited a sh*te team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacbuddies Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 concerning PL, he was a signing that i didnt expect, although maybe i should of done as lerner likes to sign young managers Young Managers? I bet Gerard Houllier will be thrilled to bits to hear that one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villarocker Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 I am not saying that I don't want Lambert here. Also, I am not saying he was solely responsible for todays result, but, his team selection today was shocking. Herd should have played DM in a centre 3 that included El Ahmadi and Ireland, with a front 3 of N'Zogbia, Bent & Holman. Lichaj should have occupied either full back spot as well! Lambert left us wide open today and has hopefully learnt a harsh lesson! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanky Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Got the selection wrong today. Not sure it would have made a massive difference but Holman, Ireland/Weimann and Lichaj should have started for me. Don't get the persistence with Delfouneso. He was awful today, and frankly just didn't look bothered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 I'm not convinced he is trying to do anything different to what Houllier was trying to achieve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smetrov Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 I still have faith in the guy - if we have to work on budget I can't think of anyone better who would come - but his big decisions worry me:- He publicly endorsed - Nzog and Ireland - two players I hoped he would replace. He publicly stated Clark will be a first choice CB - I would like to know what he has seen that makes him think that He didn't buy a new goalkeeper (unless you count Guzan) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Got the selection wrong today. Not sure it would have made a massive difference but Holman, Ireland/Weimann and Lichaj should have started for me. Don't get the persistence with Delfouneso. He was awful today, and frankly just didn't look bothered. Unfortunately, when players are simply not good enough, they have a habit of not looking bothered. When players are good enough its amazing where they get their enthusiasm from. Confidence is an essential ingredient in football ..... its funny how the best players lose it less than the not so good. most of our current first team just ain't good enough, no other way to put it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyBM Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 what PL need to learn is, is defouneso is another stefan moore, and isnt worth wasting a place in the 11 on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Regardless of what happens this season, I'm not going to be calling for Lamberts head Even if we go down we'd be best sticking with this manager and rebuilding with him Hardest job in the PL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amo69 Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 if we do go down does that mean Mcleish is a better manager than Lambert! On a serious note I agree with CI. We have to stick with Lambert no matter what. But I do think the first two games have highlighted how hard Mcleish's job really was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mammoth10 Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Regardless of what happens this season, I'm not going to be calling for Lamberts head Even if we go down we'd be best sticking with this manager and rebuilding with him Hardest job in the PL Fully with you on this CI, you get a lot of shit on here but whilst not being so extreme as to mention the 'going down' I think we're just above that level!....Our squad is abysmal and has been for several years, needs major investment and there is one man who needs to address that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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