briny_ear Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Not sure if serious....Think GasGasGas may in fact be the agent for a certain Mr De Gea... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted May 31, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted May 31, 2015 Too small, too weak, too fragile mentally and too old. He could be back up if we had a clear number one. But if Tim doesn't think Guzan is the man, he needs to get rid of both of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozvillafan Posted May 31, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted May 31, 2015 We would have lost with Guzan in net as well, but the damage Sherwood caused to Guzan these last few matches is criminal. I'm going to agree with this. Guzan made 1 mistake in what has been a horrible season across the board. In the 3 games that Given has deputized since then (Steer had the Burnley game) he has shipped 12 goals (3-2 Everton, 1-6 Soton, 0-4 Arsenal). Now I'm not looking for a scapegoat for our loss against Arsenal, but Given was: - Beaten twice at his near post - Beaten by a 35 yard shot over his head - Beaten by a shoulder "shot" That doesn't read well for any keeper and, while he made one or two decent saves, I couldn't help but think if Guzan would have done better.... ... and I honestly think he would have. I really don't want to see Given between the sticks again. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Really not a fan of goalkeepers that don't lift from the ground when they jump. Did a few amazing reflex saves thou yesterday. Hope this was his last game for Villa and that we somehow get him off the payroll. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oaks Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 We've got another year of paying £60k a week I'm afraid. Unfortunaly the Given experiment has failed miserably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimzk5 Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 We've got another year of paying £60k a week I'm afraid. Unfortunaly the Given experiment has failed miserably. Something I will never, ever understand is why we signed given on this ridiculous contract when we were trying to cut the wage bill. Mental. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 We've got another year of paying £60k a week I'm afraid. Unfortunaly the Given experiment has failed miserably. I think it was fair enough that Guzan needed a kick up the arse, he hasn't been up to his high standards this season and the mistake v City was awful, but after a couple of games it was clear that Given is no longer the keeper he was and not an improvement. To overlook Guzan for Steer against Burnley in my mind was unnecessary and must have been very demotivating for him. How much is it going to cost to buy a first-team goalkeeper that you can guarantee to be better than Guzan? I do worry about Sherwood's man management - Cissokho and Gil being nowhere to be seen, suggesting publicly the players are losers, informing certain players will be leaving (easier said than done) after an FA Cup final thumping when they must be gutted, then making it public, publicly announcing Benteke has a release clause two days before the final etc. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 We are unlikely to be able to move Given on because of his salary, so Sherwood either has to use Guzan as number 1, or sell him and buy to replace him. I have not been impressed with Steer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Dont think any keeper would have kept us in the game on Saturday, Given was ok not bad or spectacular and was 2nd best player on the team after Richardson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted June 2, 2015 VT Supporter Share Posted June 2, 2015 was 2nd best player on the team after Richardson I don't think he was anywhere near our second best player. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danceoftheshamen Posted June 2, 2015 Share Posted June 2, 2015 I like Shay and he is a good, but limited due to his height, keeper in my opinion. A tall keeper would surely have saved the Sanchez goal at the least? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oaks Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 was 2nd best player on the team after Richardson I don't think he was anywhere near our second best player. It's quite amazing where this Given love comes from. He seems a nice fella, but he's never been a top keeper (IMO) and now he's 39. Guzan is a vastly superior keeper in pretty much every way now. I do find it odd, it's like a massive cult, not unlike the Darren Bent/Gabby cults. He's always played behind poor defences, this can't be totally unfortunate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 He made PFA team of the year twice beating out Petr Cech who conceded 22 goals in one of the season. He is no Buffon but in his prime he was a much better keeper than Guzan who has had 2 good seasons in his career Also Guzan has played behind worst defences in his career compared to Given Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oaks Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 He made PFA team of the year twice beating out Petr Cech who conceded 22 goals in one of the season. He is no Buffon but in his prime he was a much better keeper than Guzan who has had 2 good seasons in his career Also Guzan has played behind worst defences in his career compared to Given Given at his peek was probably the most overrated keeper of all time. I said it then, I said it when we signed him, I say it now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanO Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 If we ran a pole I'd guess the vast majority of Villa fans would choose Guzan over Given. If we have Given as our keeper next season we are going to struggle and also good luck to Sherwood finding a better keeper with our budget better than Guzan. Bring back The Goose! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 We've got another year of paying £60k a week I'm afraid. Unfortunaly the Given experiment has failed miserably. This. He's cost an absolute bloody fortune since McLeish bought him. Him and N'Zogbia have been absolute f-yous from that utter tosser - so much money pissed away on those two guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villaphan04 Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Wonder if he would sign a new contract that sees him become a coach? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 Wonder if he would sign a new contract that sees him become a coach? I hope not - he's had enough bloody money from us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3te Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 I think he means a contract on a coach's salary, which would be ten times less than his current wage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 I think he means a contract on a coach's salary, which would be ten times less than his current wage Yep, I understood what he meant. I stand by what I said, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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