KHV Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 I dont mind Macron to be honest. I can tell you I dont like Nike products, I dont own any Nike stuff at all.Im quite gald we have finished with them. I think there trainers are shit, from what people have siad the quality of the villa replica kits isnt great and it always took them ages to bring the stuff out. Plus Nike are associated with Man Utd and I **** hate that lot. I would happily set fire to anything associated with Man Utd especially Wayne Rooney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 I really don't get the moaning. Shit Nike kits from a company that didn't give a shit about us and didn't pay much, or a company who look perfectly ok to me, are proud to have us on board and are paying us shedloads? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 lmarsha - could you do a mock up Macron with a "tie up" collar ala mitre copier kit. Would be ace if we could bring that, loved those shirts.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted February 7, 2012 Moderator Share Posted February 7, 2012 I really don't get the moaning. Shit Nike kits from a company that didn't give a shit about us and didn't pay much, or a company who look perfectly ok to me, are proud to have us on board and are paying us shedloads? That's about the size of it for me. Plus this season's jersey doesn't have to be a Christmas present. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dn1982 Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 People are moaning about quality my mates got a Braga top made by macron and its just as good as you'll get. They are a dedicated sporting brand with us as there big name. Unlike Nike who are a fashion brand and we are just another team. This deal is the best we could get financially and hopefully it will lead to a long term partnership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McGregor1888 Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 I've had a look at Nike's new Barcelona kit for next season and it looks pretty awful, as does this year's, in my opinion. I think they've run out of ideas to be honest and I would not be surprised if one or two more clubs leave them over the next few years. Fashions come and fashions go and it looks as if other football shirt manufacturers are ambitious and looking to move up the ladder hence the deals we are seeing being made with other clubs signing up with lesser known brands. Obviously money is the bottom line, but it looks as though these ambitious new companies are prepared to outbid the more established players in a move to get a slice of the action. It'll be interesting to see how Nike, Adidas and co respond to this new competition. This Macron deal reminds me a little of our shift to Le Coq Sportif in '82. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philthevillan Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 Here's one less shirt sold for each of the next 4 seasons then. I'll stick with my Nike ones ta. Good on you, supporting Nike first and foremost. I buy Villa shirts for two reasons: 1: To show my colours, proudly wearing it. 2: To support the club with money. I was excited when we got Nike, I can't deny that, but as it seems we didn't get that much out of it, this seems to be a lot better deal for us. If you're United or Barcelona then Nike is probably the best, but for a club like us I don't think it's that beneficial. At least we get paid some good money for this one. I agree, and even more i'm somewhat of a shirt collector, but for personal preference, i'll stick with and wear my Nike Claret and Blue proudly. Plus if were getting good money for this deal and it's not based on shirt sales a la the Nike deal, then I won't have to buy poorly manufactured goods. I have owned 4 of our Nike shirts, none of which were poorly manufactured. I also liked all bar last season's kit (I don't like chest bearing V-necks). I bought 3 Diadora shirts and two Hummel ones and I have chucked all of them away because they were rancid, especially the Hummel one with the light blue dog collar and the all pink Diadora home shirt. I have kept the Nike ones because they are good quality and just look less chavy. My other favourite Villa kits were made by Umbro and Reebok; all strong, established brands. Is it any wonder that I am slightly sceptical about a company associated with no other Premier League club and only a handful of largeish clubs around Europe? The last few times we've had kits made by smaller brands they've been crap. That's not to say that lesser known brands are guarnateed to be rubbish but from the Macron kits I've seen I haven't seen one that I really like yet. To me they all look like fake Kappa. If I bought a pair of trainers I would always choose a reputable brand and having learnt from previous mistakes that is what I would prefer to do when it comes to football shirts. If I don't like the new Villa shirt I won't just go and spend £45 on it anyway out of loyalty, I can find other stuff to reflect my love for the club like a scarf, although the ones they sell in the club shop at the moment are rubbish (unfortunately I lost my very long stripey Villa scarf). But I do wonder how many other fans feel like me and whether this deal could see less shirts being sold? For me it's not about fashion but whether I look like an idiot or not and most of the time the reputable brands tend to get it about right whereas my experiences with Wizadora and Pummel have been bad. As for those not bothered by lables, you cannot ignore the fact that the Nike tick does help with sales. Kids are bothered by labels more than adults so those saying 'what does it matter?', well it might do to Villa's commercial department. Do you trust them to get this one right? I don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dont_do_it_doug. Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 So we got a better financial deal? Good stuff. That's me done with this thread then. I still find it mind boggling how many adult humans give a flying toss about the kit aside from revenue. Very strange. £40? Can get myself a nice "going out" top from Religion for that ta very much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hycus-flange Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 people ticking over something as trivial as not having a ticky thing on their replica shirt next year, are your lives that empty of proper things to worry or whinge about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchard Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 Perhaps as empty as somebody who can think nothing better to do than moan about people having an opinion. Or somebody moaning about that moaning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philthevillan Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 Why comment if you aren't bothered? There are plenty of other discussions going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hycus-flange Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 Perhaps as empty as somebody who can think nothing better to do than moan about people having an opinion. Or somebody moaning about that moaning. I'm not moaning, just voicing an opinion, I have plenty of other things to moan about than having one crappy brand name sweat shop made piece of crap over another lesser named sweat shop made piece of crap. Its quite sad that people are so shallow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philthevillan Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 According to your rules we should only worry about proper things so I suggest all football forums are shut down. Football is just a pastime afterall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floody555 Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 OMG thankfully its cant be as bad as this awful nike shirt for next season looks like they kept goin with the checks look at man u shirt nxt season http://www.footballkitnews.com/3708/leaked-new-manchester-united-kits-12-13-home-away-shirts-2012-2013/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HackneyVillain Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 Nike routinely break all the rules with regards to child labour laws so for that reason I'm glad our association with them has finished. Sorry to get all Guardian-lefty but it's important to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daweii Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 Looks like we dodged a bullet getting out from Nike when we did.. Who knows what they would have done to us if they create kits like that for clubs they actually care about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hycus-flange Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 According to your rules we should only worry about proper things so I suggest all football forums are shut down. Football is just a pastime afterall. YAWN!!!!! you read what you want to see. I was trying to point out how petty some people can be over branded mass prouced poor quality tat. peer pressures a bitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob182 Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 According to your rules we should only worry about proper things so I suggest all football forums are shut down. Football is just a pastime afterall. Therr's a bit of a difference between discussing a match/ manager/ players abilities (or lack of) and the maker of our kit. It's still a talking point, hence the 50+ pages, but for someone to be so angry about Macron that they wont buy the shirt, is pretty sad IMO. I can understand people's thinking when they say they wont go to a match with McLeish in charge or that they'd stop going if we bought Joey Barton.... but cease from buying the kit because it's Macron instead of Nike! Laughable! I'm looking forward to seeing the kit, as usual, I just hope they don't give us one of those triangular, pointy necks that I've seen on some of their kits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbojames Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 Didn't realise that the 'ammers already have Macron supplying their kit, so if you want to see what a claret and blue kit of theirs looks like... see West Ham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginko Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 According to your rules we should only worry about proper things so I suggest all football forums are shut down. Football is just a pastime afterall. YAWN!!!!! you read what you want to see. I was trying to point out how petty some people can be over branded mass prouced poor quality tat. peer pressures a bitch. So some people care about the clothes they wear, so what? Referring specifically to Villa however, people care about the quality of the shirts and the style because not only do some people like to wear nice things but also it represents our club week in week out on the pitch. There's no need to get so holier than thou about it, if you don't care about the clothes you wear then that's your prerogative, but there's no need to come here and look down your noses at people. Like someone said earlier, if you don't even care about this stuff then why even post your opinion if it's just going to be a judgement on others? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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