villa4europe Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 (edited) 33 minutes ago, sidcow said: Kasabian are the trendy band to dislike. I've noticed serious music journalists bandy around the phrase "stadium rock" in a kind of sarcastic tone sort of "if you like that kind of thing" It's like if thousands of people really like going to a huge venue to listen to these popular tunes they must be shit and and I should treat them with disdain. The new U2. That said I blinkin hate Coldplay and can't understanding why thousands of people would go to a huge stadium to listen to their hugely popular songs. (other than Yellow). Kasabian are great live that's why they can headline festivals, got the set list, my problem is with them the albums contain a bit of filler which means they only ever come in at a round a 7 or an 8, them playing the civic as a warm up before headlining creamfields and wheeling out new material (Inc 1st ever play of fire, or so they said) is in my top 5 gigs Seen Coldplay a couple of times for the first 3 albums, they were good live too, CM has a great voice and he's right up there in terms of audience interaction from a front man, he's sarcastic and funny rather than up his own ass, that label is always a bit unfair I think, they've properly gone to shit though musicly I was there in Bolton the night they filmed the fix you video, the night before was oasis in the CoM stadium, 2 very different gigs, great weekend One for the piss you off thread - when I was in 6th form 2 of my mates went to see Kings of Leon in academy 3, a recording from the gig was on the b sides to molly Chambers so it was before they'd released a single, 200 people... Several of us said no to a ticket But on the thousands of people thing and something I do wonder - the courteeners... How the **** are they keeping that going? They had 1 good debut album, still selling 60k tickets for the Manchester Park gig every summer, not sure if it's a weird Manc pride thing or they wear the crown of the (god awful) LAD rock scene Edited June 5, 2020 by villa4europe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted June 5, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted June 5, 2020 17 minutes ago, useless said: There was a much bigger leap in the way the world looked in the scenario that I described than in the way it's changed in the last twenty years. They went from a world of horse and carts, candles and gas lamps for light, slow communication and travel to a world that suddenly had electric lights, high speed travel and communication, people's lives and the way the developed world looked and sounded would have changed completely . We might have things like the internet, and mobile phones but wouldn't feel as much of a leap because we were born into a world when versions of these things already existed in some form or another, I think for us to experience anything like what it must have felt like for those who saw the world change before and after electricity it would probably take the invention of something like teleportation or time travel, or some kind of technology that would completely change the world. I disagree. Horses and carts became cars and lorries. Candles became gaslight became electric lights. I am not saying the changes weren't monumental, they were but we are currently seeing entirely new concepts/ways of doing things which are affecting life in a fundimental way. Look at the demise of highstreet shopping. 1000 years of undisputed way of conducting business to decimated in just 10 short years. I was thinking when my kids started using the Internet that I was the first generation of parents to have to deal with the worries. My parents concerns about me growing up were probably the same as it was for their parents and their parent before that. Is he going to get run over by a cart/car. Is he going to get beaten up, is there a dirty old man in the park. I hated having to deal with the Internet and my kids, I had no experience of it when I was growing up and neither had any of my fellow parents. A whole brand new thing. I think these changes don't seem so monumental because they are incremental and we are living through them but I think history will look back at this time as a transformational era. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted June 5, 2020 Author VT Supporter Share Posted June 5, 2020 And of course, all the effects of the internet and social media on people's behaviour, not least politically. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 The people I'm talking about didn't even have electricty, would probably have never travelled faster than 20mph or however fast a horse and cart goes, they would have never seen a city completely lit up, or hear it roar with the sound of automobiles zooming all over the place, for them hearing voices disembodied from the body by distances of hundreds of miles via radios or telephones would have felt like a supernatural experience. The interent has changed the world, but it's not changed the way we experience the world more so than did electricity all those years ago, you could affectivley stream music and shop without leaving the house before the internet even existed so that's nothing completely new to anyone living today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Wainy316 Posted June 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 5, 2020 3 hours ago, Xela said: What would a chap of 40 in 1900 be thinking about? They’d be thinking, that Aston Villa are bloody good aren’t they. Another league title this year, will their dominance ever end? 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted June 6, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted June 6, 2020 Who would’ve guessed 40 odd years ago that there would be no pornography to be found in bushes, No Free milk for school children or white dog poo, It is indeed a very different world in which our children live 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandy Lifeboats Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 A chap of 40 in1900 would be wondering why his cough is getting worse when he is warming his lungs 40 times a day with Park Drive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 A chap of 40 in 1900 would be wondering... I'll ate me cap if birmingham city ever win a trophy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post limpid Posted June 6, 2020 Administrator Popular Post Share Posted June 6, 2020 13 hours ago, sidcow said: Really the world has probably changed more in the last 20 years than all those things. Mobile Phones, The Internet, Streaming, Online Shopping, Social Media. None of these things were on my Horizon as an early teenager. I think we are living through monumental times, the Technological Revolution. VillaTalk is nearly 20 years old. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sidcow Posted June 6, 2020 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted June 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Mandy Lifeboats said: A chap of 40 in1900 would be wondering why his cough is getting worse when he is warming his lungs 40 times a day with Park Drive. *PEDANT ALERT* Park Drive introduced in 1902 apparently. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 (edited) 13 hours ago, Wainy316 said: They’d be thinking, that Aston Villa are bloody good aren’t they. Another league title this year, will their dominance ever end? I bet he'd still be dreaming of an informal gathering or a box social whereby he could argue with other Villa fans about whether we need a new left half or whether George Ramsey should be sacked! Edited June 6, 2020 by Xela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 54 minutes ago, sidcow said: *PEDANT ALERT* Park Drive introduced in 1902 apparently. Excellent pedantry! Pall Mall were 1899 so they could be used. Or the classic Woodbine! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted June 6, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted June 6, 2020 3 hours ago, limpid said: VillaTalk is nearly 20 years old. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seat68 Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 Oh people pick up on the year a brand of fags were introduced but ok with RHCP being called an indie band. You people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 4 hours ago, limpid said: VillaTalk is nearly 20 years old. Makes me think how awful we've been at football the last 20 years. Think the only genuinly happy time in the football section was after promotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 18 hours ago, bickster said: They were almost right too The Beatles pretty much disappeared from the top ten artists sales list during the ’80s. The was a great infographic showing the top in quarterly sales by year posted by Classic Rock Magazine on Facebook which isn't possible to post here, showing this from 1970 to present day and the Flab Four pretty much don't appear for the decade only reappearing right at the end true , they weren’t a top 10 artist but I think to say they almost disappeared is stretching things a little... The Beatles hadn't been in existence for 10 years in the 80’s yet they had 17 albums chart in the U.K. , re-issues and compilations , many of them reached number 1 ... guess that would have been when CD’s took off and everyone converted formats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 Alexa played me a mix of Beatles song just last week whilst I was working from home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 18 hours ago, villa4europe said: Kasabian are great live that's why they can headline festivals, got the set list, my problem is with them the albums contain a bit of filler which means they only ever come in at a round a 7 or an 8, them playing the civic as a warm up before headlining creamfields and wheeling out new material (Inc 1st ever play of fire, or so they said) is in my top 5 gigs I own zero Kasabian albums but saw them headline a festival in Madrid and they were indeed excellent and well worth their headline slot , even if it didn’t tempt me to buy any of their records 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted June 6, 2020 Moderator Share Posted June 6, 2020 1 hour ago, tonyh29 said: but I think to say they almost disappeared is stretching things a little Good job I never said that then Quote The Beatles pretty much disappeared from the top ten artists sales list during the ’80s. Quote They were almost right too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 17 minutes ago, bickster said: Good job I never said that then Its a good job I never said what you say you didn’t say then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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