Tomaszk Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 This is what opposition managers have to make a call on. Leave him alone at your peril. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarryOnVilla Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 (edited) It’s page 1800 and to celebrate I’m sorry if you’re at work, but you’ll have to have a sneaky shuffle under the desk Edited October 19, 2020 by CarryOnVilla 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMelvillan Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 he is getting closer. at some point this season he is going to score one of those solo mazy goals where he jinks around 4 players in the box before slotting it home a la George Best for the San Jose Earthquakes 1981 or the one Ibrahimovich scored for Ajax in 2004. I guarantee it 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 Would you put him in the world class category already. I haven't seen many players that can do what he does with the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 (edited) Agreed. My maint gripe 2 years ago was that he wasn't pacy enough which led to him not being direct enough for my liking. Right now he's like you say very athletic. @NurembergVillan Edited October 19, 2020 by KenjiOgiwara 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 16 minutes ago, PaulC said: Would you put him in the world class category already. I haven't seen many players that can do what he does with the ball. I've seen nothing to suggest that if you put him into Barcelona or Real Madrid's starting 11 he'd look out of place. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdman Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 30 minutes ago, PaulC said: Would you put him in the world class category already. I haven't seen many players that can do what he does with the ball. There arent many players like him in the world. Very rare and possibly unique combination of attributes. If he's not considered world class now he may well be when this season is done. And If Southgate pulls that lump of coal from his ass and plays him in the Euros even more so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Willard Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 He is quality but I can't commit to saying he is world class till he is getting 10-15 goals, 10-15 assists a season. He has to been matching KDB stats to be world class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarryOnVilla Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 9 minutes ago, Lord Willard said: He is quality but I can't commit to saying he is world class till he is getting 10-15 goals, 10-15 assists a season. He has to been matching KDB stats to be world class. KDB is a good benchmark for a world class midfielder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, CarryOnVilla said: KDB is a good benchmark for a world class midfielder But sometimes your assists stats are only as good as the players on the end of them. For example Ozil had the most assists in Europe when playing for Real Madrid because he had Ronaldo on the end of his passes. Last season Jack was second in the league for chances created. He is heading in the right direction for eventual world class status. Edited October 19, 2020 by Vive_La_Villa 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 6 minutes ago, Lord Willard said: He is quality but I can't commit to saying he is world class till he is getting 10-15 goals, 10-15 assists a season. He has to been matching KDB stats to be world class. I understand your point, but it's not all about end product is it? Grealish is the type of footballer that not only has graft and skill, but he's capable of getting the ball, retain possession and bring the entire team into play. And I do wonder if KDB had played for us, if he had been able to take control of matches to the degree Grealish does. I didn't phrase that as a question, but I probably should have. I for one am not sure about that. KDB is exceptional, but he is just a different type of footballer to me. In fact thinking about it I'm not sure what historical footballer to compare Grealish's style to. Zidane? Zico? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 Kaka 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Willard Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 9 minutes ago, KenjiOgiwara said: I understand your point, but it's not all about end product is it? Grealish is the type of footballer that not only has graft and skill, but he's capable of getting the ball, retain possession and bring the entire team into play. And I do wonder if KDB had played for us, if he had been able to take control of matches to the degree Grealish does. I didn't phrase that as a question, but I probably should have. I for one am not sure about that. KDB is exceptional, but he is just a different type of footballer to me. In fact thinking about it I'm not sure what historical footballer to compare Grealish's style to. Zidane? Zico? If you're playing as a left forward you 100% need the stats to back you up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted October 19, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted October 19, 2020 15 hours ago, gwi1890 said: Interesting fact about Jack’s great grandfather Garraty was capped once by England appearing in a game against Wales in 1903. History repeating itself? Yep. Billy Garraty, forward. 224 appearances and 96 goals for the Villa, 1897-1908 (later 53 games, 22 goals for the tesco bags). This is a Villa royal dynasty we are talking about here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 19 minutes ago, KenjiOgiwara said: I understand your point, but it's not all about end product is it? Grealish is the type of footballer that not only has graft and skill, but he's capable of getting the ball, retain possession and bring the entire team into play. And I do wonder if KDB had played for us, if he had been able to take control of matches to the degree Grealish does. I didn't phrase that as a question, but I probably should have. I for one am not sure about that. KDB is exceptional, but he is just a different type of footballer to me. In fact thinking about it I'm not sure what historical footballer to compare Grealish's style to. Zidane? Zico? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Lord Willard said: If you're playing as a left forward you 100% need the stats to back you up. But for me he's not a left forward. He's an advanced playmaker that happens to primarily work from the left wing in what only can be described as a free role. That's partically my point. KDB plays far more advanced and in a far more direct role. More focused on end product than Jack. Edited October 19, 2020 by KenjiOgiwara Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rightdm00 Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 2 hours ago, Tomaszk said: This is what opposition managers have to make a call on. Leave him alone at your peril. Yep, real interesting to see what Leeds try on Friday. They can try that high line press at their own peril. It will be Liverpool version 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENTLEMAN Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 1 minute ago, Rightdm00 said: Yep, real interesting to see what Leeds try on Friday. They can try that high line press at their own peril. It will be Liverpool version 2. Please make it sooo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders129 Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 Was watching a YouTube highlight video of Michael Laudrup and think there’s quite a lot of similarities Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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