The_Steve Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 10 minutes ago, Czarnikjak said: Unless entire football world conspires and literally nobody buys their players before 30th June, they will scrape enough funds. There will always be enough clubs eager for a bargain purchase. Wages however might be a stumbling block Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 On 15/04/2024 at 14:32, Chindie said: Iirc Chelsea can't do the stadium sale trick as they don't own it. Stamford Bridge is owned by a separate supporters trust entity, Or something. Pretty sure the trust own the pitch. There was a worry back in the day that someone would buy the club just to own the land as it was so valuable in that part of London. So the supporters trust owns the pitch to ensure any redevelopment doesn't screw the club over. I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 So what's the PSR/SCR rules for next season 2024/25? UEFA rules for clubs in Europe are 90% of revenue? PL rules is 90% for clubs not in Europe and 80% for clubs in Europe? Something like that isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrim Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 On 12/04/2024 at 21:56, VillaJay said: Interesting listening to JJ Watt on the overlap that the thing that surprised him most about football vs NFL was the agents fees and it's like the wild wild West vs NFL. Agents had a big anti competitive legal win in the summer led by the same legal team taking on FFP, technically they shouldn't be capped but they are definitely feeding off the huge amounts of money available in the PL and holding so much power on where a player moves. Money has ruined football, and agents are a by-product of that. The horse has bolted. The NFL, as surprises many, is one one of fairest most egalitarian financial systems in world sport. I've long thought we could take a massive leaf out of the NFL book when it comes to our game. Not only with youth drafting but financial caps. Very difficult to do though. What we should do as a priority is get rid of agents. They're just a load of shyster parasites making money for nothing. Players should get FA appointed advisors or have an advisory body handing player's affairs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul514 Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 28 minutes ago, Mazrim said: The NFL, as surprises many, is one one of fairest most egalitarian financial systems in world sport. I've long thought we could take a massive leaf out of the NFL book when it comes to our game. Not only with youth drafting but financial caps. Very difficult to do though. What we should do as a priority is get rid of agents. They're just a load of shyster parasites making money for nothing. Players should get FA appointed advisors or have an advisory body handing player's affairs. I agree on agents, the FA should do it for them for a set fee like 1% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czarnikjak Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 (edited) On 17/04/2024 at 12:58, ender4 said: So what's the PSR/SCR rules for next season 2024/25? UEFA rules for clubs in Europe are 90% of revenue? PL rules is 90% for clubs not in Europe and 80% for clubs in Europe? Something like that isn't it? No, still current psr rules will apply. At least according to today's article in The Athletic. Edited April 18 by Czarnikjak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted April 19 VT Supporter Share Posted April 19 On 16/04/2024 at 19:55, villa89 said: Pretty sure the trust own the pitch. There was a worry back in the day that someone would buy the club just to own the land as it was so valuable in that part of London. So the supporters trust owns the pitch to ensure any redevelopment doesn't screw the club over. I think. So a scheming owner could just knock down the stands and build a huge housing development overlooking one of those nice London squares? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 (edited) On 18/04/2024 at 14:47, Mazrim said: The NFL, as surprises many, is one one of fairest most egalitarian financial systems in world sport. I've long thought we could take a massive leaf out of the NFL book when it comes to our game. Not only with youth drafting but financial caps. Very difficult to do though. Borderline impossible in football unless enforced globally by FIFA which is obviously never going to happen. The NFL of course has the benefit of being overseen by a single organisation in a single country, dominating the world in the sport because nobody else gives a ****. The challenge the PL has is not losing all of the top talent to Spain, Italy or Germany, and the challenge UEFA has it not losing all of the talent in Europe to Saudi or the US. Edited April 19 by Davkaus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alakagom Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 Wonder how that goes, it would cap salary budget at £466m 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thabucks Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 With so many clubs now owned by ambitious billionaires it’s only fair that they should be allowed to pump their own money in should they wish to. they’ll find a way though to handicap clubs like Villa joining the party no doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 10 hours ago, Alakagom said: Wonder how that goes, it would cap salary budget at £466m thats how it should be if man city want to pay haaland £1m a week then so be it, have at it, thats not what is killing football, whats killing football is the wolves key player they sign on £150k a week and play 10 times a year, it shouldnt attack the star players it should attack the squad depth in theory it could also have an impact on youngsters too, the squad should end up with a couple more young guys on lower wages rather than journeymen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 2 hours ago, thabucks said: With so many clubs now owned by ambitious billionaires it’s only fair that they should be allowed to pump their own money in should they wish to. they’ll find a way though to handicap clubs like Villa joining the party no doubt. arent they talking about a "salary tax" if they go above it, so they could, but it costs more in "taxes" the more they go above it? or was that something different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villa_Vids Posted Monday at 14:11 Share Posted Monday at 14:11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talldarkandransome Posted Monday at 14:13 Share Posted Monday at 14:13 15 hours ago, Alakagom said: Wonder how that goes, it would cap salary budget at £466m Just enough for Digne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wishywashy Posted Monday at 14:18 Share Posted Monday at 14:18 6 minutes ago, Villa_Vids said: Why exactly have Villa/Heck voted against this lol? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterSw Posted Monday at 14:19 Share Posted Monday at 14:19 Anyone got an insight on the new 'anchoring' system the PL is trying to bring in? Seems like an agreement in principle have been reached by the majority of clubs to bring it in from 25/26 - interestingly Aston Villa, Man City and Man Utd voted against it, whilst Chelsea abstained. The way I understand it, the spending money is tied to the smallest TV income from a Prem club i.e. say Luton made £100m from TV, the 'cap' would be 5 times that - £500m to be spent on transfers and wages? does this mean amortisation is going to be a thing of the past? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycv Posted Monday at 14:24 Share Posted Monday at 14:24 I wonder if we voted against it due to there being a different (more restrictive) approach for clubs in European competition? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pongo Waring Posted Monday at 14:24 Share Posted Monday at 14:24 Damn we're in the losing side of the vote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imavillan Posted Monday at 14:31 Share Posted Monday at 14:31 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wishywashy Posted Monday at 14:35 Share Posted Monday at 14:35 (edited) 11 minutes ago, andycv said: I wonder if we voted against it due to there being a different (more restrictive) approach for clubs in European competition? AFAIK this squad cost cap (which wouldn't affect us in any way as our spend is about half of the cap: only Chelsea would fail it and Man City would be close) is separate to the 70-85% spending limit that has been adopted by UEFA and is planning to be adopted by the Premier League. So absolutely no clue why Villa voted against, this isn't the planned financial rule change that would affect us. Edited Monday at 14:35 by wishywashy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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