Genie Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 4 minutes ago, MaVilla said: not sure what to think tbh. tbf, he kept them up in that first season, and will keep them up again this season, which is a huge success in of itself. on the other side, they have spent 320m in the last 2 seasons, should they be expecting at least a mid table finish with that kind of money spent? Forest are the 7th biggest net spenders in world football over the last 2 years with 250m net spend, only behind Chelsea - 745m, Manure - -370m, Al-Hilal - -352m, Arsenal -335m, Newcastle - 280m and Spurs - -270m. in our first 2 years back we spent something like 260m, and in that second season we finished 11th (but ofc 14th the 3rd season). tough one. Nuno’s CV isn’t brilliant so it’s a risky move. If there was a really good manager waiting in the wings then I’d say go for it, but I’m not convinced this will be a positive step. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, Genie said: Nuno’s CV isn’t brilliant so it’s a risky move. If there was a really good manager waiting in the wings then I’d say go for it, but I’m not convinced this will be a positive step. i agree in that sense, to do it for Nuno is stupid. If it were Lopeitegu (or however you spell it), or someone of genuine quality, might be different. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG_Villa_Fan Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 Really like Cooper. They’ve had some bad results lately but surely he must have had some goodwill in the bank, especially since they’re not really in danger of going down and can afford to give him time. Bit like Deano’s sacking. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 5 minutes ago, Genie said: Nuno’s CV isn’t brilliant so it’s a risky move. If there was a really good manager waiting in the wings then I’d say go for it, but I’m not convinced this will be a positive step. Be like that time Ranieri popped up at Fulham. Be sacked by Easter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 Rumours Cooper gone, Nuno on his way. How did we ever lose those 3 points, 1 win in 13 for Forest. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jono62 Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 It happens. Forest got their tactics right on the day and they could have scored more than 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 13 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: Rumours Cooper gone, Nuno on his way. How did we ever lose those 3 points, 1 win in 13 for Forest. Probably complacency on our part. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 (edited) Yup, Cooper gone Edited December 19, 2023 by sne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbcuk Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 (edited) Not seen many forest fans happy with that decision Edited December 19, 2023 by rbcuk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 (edited) I'm not sure Nuno is much of an upgrade. I think they'll tread water and escape the drop by virtue of the crapper sides below them. Edited December 19, 2023 by maqroll 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 I know their results have been going downhill recently but Nuno is not an upgrade on Cooper. He’s lasted 17 and 12 games in his last two appointments and I reckon he might make 21 games before being sacked in the summer. Their owner is like a budget Tom Boehly… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Platt Posted December 19, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted December 19, 2023 Cooper to Palace I reckon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villatillidie95 Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 I think they needed to make a change, 320 mil spent on the squad and not really improved in league position in 2 seasons is a challenging situation. I think Nuno will improve them defensively and actually they will finish 11th -13th under him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 15 minutes ago, Villatillidie95 said: I think they needed to make a change, 320 mil spent on the squad and not really improved in league position in 2 seasons is a challenging situation. I think Nuno will improve them defensively and actually they will finish 11th -13th under him They have conceded the same amount of goals as Brighton and West Ham Defence is not the problem 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 Lets hope Luton over take them and stay up 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 40 minutes ago, S-Platt said: Cooper to Palace I reckon. Yes they interviewed him in summer 2021 but went with Vieira. He's exactly the sort they need to bring in so I think if they lose to Brighton on Thursday they'll politely ask Roy to step down (given he was only coming in for this season) and appoint Cooper for the xmas fixtures. Harsh sacking but would've been even harsher last season so he was never going to survive a long winless run this time. Hopefully Forest get a bounce as they have Newcastle away and Man. United at home in next three fixtures so it's very much in our interests that Nuno gets a quick response from their squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 When one says Forest have spent £300m in isolation it's misleading when judging Cooper and how they've done in general It wasn't as if they spent that £300m adding to an already established Premier League team, or even a very good Championship team When promoted they did so with a squad that was barely midtable Championship quality, they had no choice but to spend big that summer And even then was going to be an hard task to stay up, we found it hard after spending big, and we had a better base to start with Also a lot of that money has been spread out very thinly amongst a stack load of players, wasn't like they spent it on ten or fifteen top players A lot of it will have been on players they've brought and then sold or just don't use, I don't know who's in charge of their recruitment but I don't think it's Cooper Upon promotion they lost three of their best players, James Garner, Djed Spence, and Brice Samba, and this summer they lost their best player Brennan Johnson. Cooper obvously should have been doing better currently, but overall had done a brilliant job with them And if anything the amount of players they signed could have hindered him as much as anything I would't be surprised if Cooper gets a better job, whether Palace can be described as that I don't know With regards to the size of their squad it will be interesting to see how Nuno deals with that, as he famously likes a very small squad Strange how Nuno lost his reputation as a top manager, wasn't that long back he was being linked with Chelsea and Arsenal jobs I guess Spurs spell contributed to that, but he wasn't exactly a disaster there 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oishiiniku_uk Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 12 wins in 55 games in the Premier League for Cooper. That's about 1 in 5. I don't think he was going to turn it around. Not sure Nuno is the answer, mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 I like Cooper and they have stuck with him but results hsve been poor. That squad should not be in a relegation battle this season. I can see why they sacked him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talldarkandransome Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 Shame really as Cooper is a really likeable coach, not sure what Nuno will do any better.. He's hardly done anything since leaving Wolves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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