tomsky_11 Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 3 hours ago, hong0311 said: With some rough estimation, we'll have to win 12 games out of the remaining 23 games to stand a chance of getting into Europe. Do you guys think we stand a chance? Remaining home games we should be winning: Burnley, Leeds, Watford, Southampton, Norwich, Palace Winnable away games: Norwich, Leeds, Brentford, Everton, Newcastle, Brighton, Wolves, Burnley Other games: Liverpool (a), Chelsea (h), Man U (h), West Ham (a), Arsenal (h), Spurs (h), Liverpool (h), Leicester (a), Man City (a) So 6 home games we should really be winning, 8 winnable away games, so 6 of them plus the home games gets us to 12. Then most of our other tougher games are at home. And wouldn’t be out of the question to get something away at Leicester or West Ham. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 Not always, Burnley finished 7th on 54 points in 17/18 (less than what we got last season). They won 14 games. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PussEKatt Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 How high do we have to finish to qualify for the new euro competition,the one below the Europa lge ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steero113 Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 (edited) 53 minutes ago, PussEKatt said: How high do we have to finish to qualify for the new euro competition,the one below the Europa lge ? 6th for the Europa Conference League normally. But if the winners of the two cups come from the top 6 then there is usually one more spot available. Last year Spurs qualified by finishing 7th thanks to Man City winning the Man City cup and Leicester winning the FA cup. Edited December 9, 2021 by Steero113 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomsky_11 Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 18 hours ago, Steero113 said: 6th for the Europa Conference League normally. But if the winners of the two cups come from the top 6 then there is usually one more spot available. Last year Spurs qualified by finishing 7th thanks to Man City winning the Man City cup and Leicester winning the FA cup. The Europa Conference place goes to the EFL Cup winners first, then goes to the next available place in the league if the League Cup winners have already qualified for another European competition. 4 of the remaining 8 teams in the EFL Cup currently occupy top 5 places in the Premier League, so reasonable chance it will end up with the qualifying place going to 6th/7th in league. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Your Round Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 I’m not too concerned about getting into Europe this season but I do hope we aim for it, if only by the definition that we should try to win every game. I’d be happy with finishing around 7th or 8th. That would a tremendous achievement when you consider our early season form, selling Grealish and sacking Smith. Apart from the top three, nobody else is really pulling away from the pack (maybe West Ham, but I don’t think it will last). We are only five points off Manure in sixth place, it’s absolutely possible to get there but we need to keep up this form. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 If Brentford beat lowly Watford tonight we will sink out of the top ten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Your Round Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 13 minutes ago, useless said: If Brentford beat lowly Watford tonight we will sink out of the top ten. Until we beat Liverpool tomorrow… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 I hope we do beat Liverpool, it's one of those games where I wouldn't be surprised by an heavy defeat but also wouldn't be too surprised if we got a result. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chine Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 3 hours ago, useless said: I hope we do beat Liverpool, it's one of those games where I wouldn't be surprised by an heavy defeat but also wouldn't be too surprised if we got a result. I’m optimistic about this game , yes they are very good but our tails are up we look fit and as long as we start first half as aggressively as we’ve been playing 2nd halves we could do well , my thoughts though are the yellow cards and second yellows our defenders may pick up as if we are at it these lot will roll around on the floor no danger , to get to Europe we have to pick up points against some of these top sides that will leave a hole while attacking , cue Ollie Watkins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 We certainly match up far better to Liverpool than Man. City. Even losing twice in 19/20 the matches were pretty tight home and away and we seem to unsettle them in midfield a bit. Still think we'll get soundly beaten tomorrow but like Man. City I think it's more about the performance. Play well and we can remain confidence going into Norwich (unless that gets called off due to covid). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboyangel Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 Our European football hopes were dashed by the gurning David Semen when he drew us to play ManUre away in the FA Cup… Honestly thought we could have a good challenge for a cup this season… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted December 11, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted December 11, 2021 54 minutes ago, theboyangel said: Our European football hopes were dashed by the gurning David Semen when he drew us to play ManUre away in the FA Cup… Honestly thought we could have a good challenge for a cup this season… We will beat them 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 Absolutely love the fact that all of the scum 6 are getting soft **** pens today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 Arsenal-West Ham is intriguing game tomorrow (I'll be at the Enter Shikari gig in Brum otherwise would've watched it). Arsenal lose and they become seriously in range again, just 4 points in it and I assume they have tricky away game at the weekend. West Ham lose and gap will be 6 points although they do have Norwich at home at the weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ender4 Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 Into 9th place, but now it starts to become more difficult to move up places. We probably have to beat Burnley just to stay 9th. Above us… Leic - 1 game in hand, better GD Spurs - 3 points ahead & 3 games in hand Arsenal - 4 points ahead, 1 game in hand Man Utd - 5 points ahead, 1 game in hand West Ham - 6 points ahead, 1 game in hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 Beat Burnley and we'd be on course to average 50 points from 36 games so not bad position at all when I think we had that tally after 36 last season and then won our final two. Remember we had 1 win in about 3 months aswell so I think we'll have a strong second half of the season given the level we're generally playing at. I know people love draws for long unbeaten runs but think our decent position despite losing five straight shows the value sometimes of not getting too many draws in a row. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 8th position would be a phenomenal finish really. Anything close to last year's points total would be success. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abdulaziz1 Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 Despite our bad start, we’re 22 points out of 17. Last season we were 26 out of 16. If we take it to 19 games we were 32. So we have to win the next 2 to be 4 points to past season total. But there when it went all wrong with Dean. We got another 4 before Grealish injury, which was impressive 36 out of 21. Then 14 out of the next 15! Then Grealish came back and we added two wins. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Albrighton Posted December 14, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted December 14, 2021 28 minutes ago, DCJonah said: 8th position would be a phenomenal finish really. Anything close to last year's points total would be success. Yes I think 8th is the best “realistic” finish for us this season. It would represent a very good season overall and a terrific first 70% of a season for Gerrard. One thing I’m interested to see play out. Since the new owners and Purslow have come in there’s been this aim to improve year on year. That was underlined by Purslow at the unveiling of Gerrard. Obviously that ambition is something we can all get behind. What I’m curious about is if we did finish 8th this season, what would the expectation of the board be for next season? Because obviously the wiggle room of what can be classed as an “improvement” narrows the higher we go up. Would they expect top 6/7? Or would there be an allowance of time for Gerrard and the team to (re)establish ourselves firmly in and around 8th in the short term? I feel like it’s the latter. A lot of that could go in the NWSE thread to be fair, but I got carried away with the hypothetical thought. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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