hippo Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 21 minutes ago, VillanousOne said: This is what I don't get, I've been a Villa fan over 30 years and any player who puts on our colours I will support and give the benefit of the doubt. I find it far easier to be positive and praise players than continuously run them down over and over again on multiple threads like I am being paid by someone to make sure no mention of that player is not responded to with negativity. Plus I believe in these owners, coaches, manager and general set up. I don't always 100% agree all decisions taken but I try and put that aside because these guys know what they are doing. I don't think i've ever seen a player like Sanson who has played so few games and got a nasty injury get such a huge amount of criticism and weird conspiracy theories. I really hope players don't read these threads. I doubt Sanson has read this thread. What conspiracy theories are you referring to ? - because the most I have seen are perhaps around 3 posts ...asking "has something gone on" ? (There are more conspiracies in the Guilbert thread for example) A player joins and 8 months later has made 3 starts - with no reported major injury ...people are quite rightly wondering if this one is going to work out ? ... Others have a different viewpoint that in the next few weeks he will get games and be a key part of the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aston_Villan4 Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 20 minutes ago, VillanousOne said: This is what I don't get, I've been a Villa fan over 30 years and any player who puts on our colours I will support and give the benefit of the doubt. I find it far easier to be positive and praise players than continuously run them down over and over again on multiple threads like I am being paid by someone to make sure no mention of that player is not responded to with negativity. Plus I believe in these owners, coaches, manager and general set up. I don't always 100% agree all decisions taken but I try and put that aside because these guys know what they are doing. I don't think i've ever seen a player like Sanson who has played so few games and got a nasty injury get such a huge amount of criticism and weird conspiracy theories. I really hope players don't read these threads. Well just from a simple psychological standpoint, humans tend to give more weight to negative thoughts. That mixed with the fanatical investment people put into sport which usually involves high expectations and demand for immediate success equals what you see with the negativity. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommo_b Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 I don’t even know what Sansons role is, I might have to Google his FM stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_eristic Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Tommo_b said: I don’t even know what Sansons role is, I might have to Google his FM stats. He broke through as an attacking mid, but he's become more of a box-to-box harasser over time. You can see his detailed stats over the last several seasons here. https://fbref.com/en/players/6e7f1353/scout/365_euro/Morgan-Sanson-Scouting-Report Edited August 27, 2021 by the_eristic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted August 27, 2021 Author Share Posted August 27, 2021 16 minutes ago, hippo said: I doubt Sanson has read this thread. What conspiracy theories are you referring to ? - because the most I have seen are perhaps around 3 posts ...asking "has something gone on" ? (There are more conspiracies in the Guilbert thread for example) A player joins and 8 months later has made 3 starts - with no reported major injury ...people are quite rightly wondering if this one is going to work out ? ... Others have a different viewpoint that in the next few weeks he will get games and be a key part of the team. Exactly. The most frustrating thing is when people ask you if you want him to fail? Of course I don’t. I hope he becomes a club legend, but with the injury/injuries (who even knows anymore), I can’t see it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilko154 Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 Can someone actually explain to me what they are basing their judgement on Sanson from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted August 27, 2021 Author Share Posted August 27, 2021 7 minutes ago, wilko154 said: Can someone actually explain to me what they are basing their judgement on Sanson from? I wasn’t overly impressed when he did play for us - albeit limited minutes. That could be down to the new league, environment etc. Im not saying he’s definitely going to fail but if you had a gun to my head and asked me if he was going to be a success here, I’d probably say no. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 1 hour ago, AVTuco said: Yes. He's just another average midfielder that we have too many of. Here I thought you were following him in Ligue 1. He could be a world beater and you wouldn't know, 291 mins is barely 3 games worth of football, it's nothing. You don't know if he's average or good or bad based on such limited time watching him. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 12 minutes ago, wilko154 said: Can someone actually explain to me what they are basing their judgement on Sanson from? Let me turn that on its head.lets last January he didn't join villa - but joined Everton. He made 3 appearances for them before spending the rest of the time out injured. ...you then hear that villa are going to buy him for £15m ......pleased/cautious/not pleased...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 9 minutes ago, hippo said: Let me turn that on its head.lets last January he didn't join villa - but joined Everton. He made 3 appearances for them before spending the rest of the time out injured. ...you then hear that villa are going to buy him for £15m ......pleased/cautious/not pleased...? Strange transfer scenario notwithstanding, just like now you wouldn't know enough about the player to have an informed opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 6 minutes ago, Keyblade said: Strange transfer scenario notwithstanding, just like now you wouldn't know enough about the player to have an informed opinion. Fair enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 10 hours ago, Delphinho123 said: Has there been a bust up? Does he not want to be here? Yeah we changed his shirt number to number 8 cause we hate him. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: Yeah we changed his shirt number to number 8 cause we hate him. Eight / Hate You're on to something... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted August 27, 2021 Author Share Posted August 27, 2021 5 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: Yeah we changed his shirt number to number 8 cause we hate him. Let’s hope he lives up to the hype! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciggiesnbeer Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 I think its completely fair to have questions about him. We havent seen much of him and he has been here for half a year. I am optimistic about him but I have zero evidence for that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted August 27, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted August 27, 2021 1 minute ago, Delphinho123 said: Let’s hope he lives up to the hype! Only ever one number 8 in my lifetime. If he turns out to be a fraction of that player we have talent on our hands 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 36 minutes ago, Delphinho123 said: I wasn’t overly impressed when he did play for us - albeit limited minutes. That could be down to the new league, environment etc. Im not saying he’s definitely going to fail but if you had a gun to my head and asked me if he was going to be a success here, I’d probably say no. the team was also woefully out of form when he came into the team 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, Follyfoot said: Only ever one number 8 in my lifetime. If he turns out to be a fraction of that player we have talent on our hands agree 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 nice to see another Villa French midfield flop just got called up to the French squad this week 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicagoVillan1983 Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 Damned shame with this lingering injury. But still have hope here. Basically we can’t make any conclusions yet. He needs some real competitive minutes. Hopefully he’ll get them soon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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