Keener window-cleaner Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 Just now, Woody1000 said: And so they should. Why give out information to our opponents? yeah it's not necessairly a bad thing on the whole, from the fans point of view I'd like to know though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody1000 Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, Keener window-cleaner said: yeah it's not necessairly a bad thing on the whole, from the fans point of view I'd like to know though. I know what you’re saying, it’s nice to know what’s going on but if it keeps our opponents guessing then that’s more important unfortunately. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 As well as coming on Saturday he also played in the hush hush friendly against Liverpool the day after. seems like madness for a player just back from injury 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMitch Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 15 hours ago, WHY said: So he’s out injured for 3/4 weeks with a hamstring injury. Probably has nothing to do with playing on a Saturday and then travelling from London to Liverpool to play the next day. Our whole preseason prep has been so poor, lost 2 key coaches and look short on fitness. 14 hours ago, HalfTimePost said: I only just put the timeline together and realised we chucked him in to two games in 24 hours. Kind of our own fault really, didn't protect him at all. Shows how desperate we are to get them back to fitness that we've done it, ignoring what must've been pretty obvious risks. 18 minutes ago, hippo said: As well as coming on Saturday he also played in the hush hush friendly against Liverpool the day after. seems like madness for a player just back from injury FFS... He only played 18 minutes on Saturday, which is significantly less activity than a standard training session on a non-match day. You guys are making out like Smith made him run back to back marathons two days in a row... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hippo Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, KMitch said: FFS... He only played 18 minutes on Saturday, which is significantly less activity than a standard training session on a non-match day. You guys are making out like Smith made him run back to back marathons two days in a row... Yes but he played well enough to be a starter v Newcastle. Now he won't be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 14 minutes ago, KMitch said: FFS... He only played 18 minutes on Saturday, which is significantly less activity than a standard training session on a non-match day. You guys are making out like Smith made him run back to back marathons two days in a row... Come on, you know how it works. Fans know more about the physical health of our players than highly paid professionals. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMitch Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 20 minutes ago, hippo said: Yes but he played well enough to be a starter v Newcastle. Now he won't be. But he probably wasn't fit enough to start or play an entire competitive game yet, hence the friendly on Sunday to get him ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 (edited) I have to confess, I have no idea what goes on in the world of Fitness at football clubs.....I guess its a science on its own, that's why we have experts to deal with it, but sometimes events trump their expertise, like cancelled pre season games, the priority of the Euro's/Copa America and the ugly head of those dastardly injuries...not to mention record breaking transfers that seem to disrupt everything, short of the traffic. However, what I do know after spending the best part of my life watching Aston Villa is what a fit player is likely to look like.....A kinda give away to the less discerning is the fitness of the opposition, when playing against them. I can also tell if a player has natural athleticism or if he is sharp enough to play to the level of football, we are in......of course many other factors are at play, but most fans have a pretty good idea if their team is fit or a disparity in certain players.....It doesn't take a sports specialist to be the only ones to comment accurately.....it only needs one to put it right. Edited August 17, 2021 by TRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 54 minutes ago, hippo said: As well as coming on Saturday How do you do those a Kenneth Williams gif things? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanBalaban Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 30 minutes ago, hippo said: Yes but he played well enough to be a starter v Newcastle. Now he won't be. He needed to be fitter and match time is a huge part of getting there. On this occasion he's picked up an injury, but that could easily have happened in training or even during the Newcastle match. Just bad luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilko154 Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 1 hour ago, hippo said: As well as coming on Saturday he also played in the hush hush friendly against Liverpool the day after. seems like madness for a player just back from injury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted August 17, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted August 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, StanBalaban said: He needed to be fitter and match time is a huge part of getting there. On this occasion he's picked up an injury, but that could easily have happened in training or even during the Newcastle match. Just bad luck. nothing is down to bad luck. it always has to be someone's fault. surely you know this by now. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 (edited) I just have a hunch, he could prove to be a real asset this season. In terms of technical ability alone, he has no peers at our club. Edited August 17, 2021 by TRO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 5 minutes ago, TRO said: I just have a hunch, he could prove to be a real asset this season. In terms of technical ability alone, he has no peers at our club. You're going to be surprised by Bailey. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 Just now, lexicon said: You're going to be surprised by Bailey. hoping so, and every reason to agree....but Traore is undervalued in terms of Tech ability, his application maybe questioned, but if he got that right, he would be a c40mill player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMitch Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 32 minutes ago, StanBalaban said: He needed to be fitter and match time is a huge part of getting there. On this occasion he's picked up an injury, but that could easily have happened in training or even during the Newcastle match. Just bad luck. Yeah, but that doesn't fit the narrative... Don't you know that Smith is a clueless lunkhead, one step removed from Bruce/Fat Sam/Pulis? A "smart" manager would never make a wrong team selection or allow a player to become injured... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 I kept reiterating how fresh he looked and seemed to have a bit more zip about him as well. Typical ffs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villa 59 Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 26 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: I kept reiterating how fresh he looked and seemed to have a bit more zip about him as well. Typical ffs. At least it will provide your bro Leon with a starting debut at VP on Saturday.....you wont be able to sleep on Friday night. BTW if he's rubbish, it's all down to you 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 28 minutes ago, Villa 59 said: At least it will provide your bro Leon with a starting debut at VP on Saturday.....you wont be able to sleep on Friday night. BTW if he's rubbish, it's all down to you To be fair, I reckon it would/should have been Bailey LW and Traore RW against Newcastle anyway. Not one or the other. Good thing we have Buendia though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villa 59 Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 5 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: To be fair, I reckon it would/should have been Bailey LW and Traore RW against Newcastle anyway. Not one or the other. Good thing we have Buendia though! He looks a proper player. I guess Buendia will go RW Saturday with Leon LW 5 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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