villalad21 Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 Blowing hot and cold. Nothing new to see here. Traore is just what he is. Have no problems with him being a squad man. It was him being a starter I had issues with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 For players that played decent minutes last season Traore was 3rd for goals per 90 behind AEG and Watkins and 2nd for assists per 90 behind Grealish. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody1000 Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 I read this thread and it makes me wonder which of our new signings will be ‘****’ by the end of the season? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, Woody1000 said: I read this thread and it makes me wonder which of our new signings will be ‘****’ by the end of the season? The bar is set at 14 goal involvements. Any less must be shit or possibly more still shit because blamed for leaky defence even though Barkley was the main reason for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody1000 Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 12 minutes ago, Kiwivillan said: The bar is set at 14 goal involvements. Any less must be shit or possibly more still shit because blamed for leaky defence even though Barkley was the main reason for it I’m not meaning to knock AEG (who is another player who seems to get nothing but stick) , but take away the penalties and Traore is our 2nd top scorer last year. Sure he is not perfect, but I would say he had a decent debut season for us. I’m willing to see what he can do this year with an open mind, but I feel I’m in the minority there. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kiwivillan Posted August 8, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 8, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Woody1000 said: I’m not meaning to knock AEG (who is another player who seems to get nothing but stick) , but take away the penalties and Traore is our 2nd top scorer last year. Sure he is not perfect, but I would say he had a decent debut season for us. I’m willing to see what he can do this year with an open mind, but I feel I’m in the minority there. Traore is great. No argument from me. Any fans that shit on his debut season contribution will never be happy with signings and just love to complain Edited August 8, 2021 by Kiwivillan 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 No surprise we've bought two right wingers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 Would be really fun seeing Traore, Buendia and Bailey interchanging behind either Ings or Watkins. Expecting us to be entertaining this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted August 11, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted August 11, 2021 I don’t know what his operation was for, knowing how mad he is he’s presumably having an extra leg grafted on to really smash those overhead kicks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 (edited) On 08/08/2021 at 22:46, Kiwivillan said: For players that played decent minutes last season Traore was 3rd for goals per 90 behind AEG and Watkins and 2nd for assists per 90 behind Grealish. Also had more goals than his xG and more assists than his xA. He is a quality attacking player. It was his first season with us remember, plus when we were red hot in early part of season he wasn't in team yet and most of his games came when Jack was injured and Ross form fell off a cliff. People need to give him time to improve. He is a quality attacking threat and skillful. He got a goal or assist 0.5 times per 90 mins played which is the same as Watkins (0.51). Jack Grealish had 0.65 goals or assists per 90. Ings is 0.71 over last two seasons just to show how potent he is Bert is a quality attacking threat. Period Edited August 11, 2021 by CVByrne 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 14 goal contributions is a fantastic return. No denying that. But how anyone can ignore all the non existent or very poor performances is beyond me. Are we good enough to have a player that is 3 out of 10 one week and 8 the next ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichiBoi11 Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 (edited) Traore is a very good player. Yes he can be frustrating as he can drift between being dominant and ineffective week to week, but apart from the very top tier that is true of all wingers. Now he's in a position with the likes of Bailey and Bunedia where if he's on the pitch he has to perform, and if he isn't, someone else gets a chance. He's a solid building block for having a squad with real depth, and on his day he can do the unthinkable. A very good player to have around and I think the competition could make him up his game. Edited August 11, 2021 by RichiBoi11 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMelvillan Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 need him to play. havent got anyone else who will needlessly smash a half volley from a throw in across his own box from the right back to left back position, regardless of the number of opposition players in between. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Vive_La_Villa said: 14 goal contributions is a fantastic return. No denying that. But how anyone can ignore all the non existent or very poor performances is beyond me. Are we good enough to have a player that is 3 out of 10 one week and 8 the next ? it's nonsense to say that. Typical VT scapegoating. It says a lot that when he played and Barkley was out we won 7 drew 2 lost 3 Edited August 11, 2021 by Kiwivillan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, TheMelvillan said: need him to play. havent got anyone else who will needlessly smash a half volley from a throw in across his own box from the right back to left back position, regardless of the number of opposition players in between. I remember that. Was mad. At the time thought WTF was he thinking? That said I think was game early on after he started playing regular minutes and some people have that movie in their brain every time he does something that doesn't work out. Edited August 11, 2021 by Kiwivillan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 6 minutes ago, Kiwivillan said: it's nonsense to say that. Typical VT scapegoating. It says a lot that when he played and Barkley was out we won 7 drew 2 lost 3 You seem to have a problem with other peoples opinions when they are different to yours. Let’s revisit this conversation in a few months. Hopefully I’m saying how wrong I was about him. But I suspect he’ll have hardly played if everyone is fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 8 minutes ago, TheMelvillan said: need him to play. havent got anyone else who will needlessly smash a half volley from a throw in across his own box from the right back to left back position, regardless of the number of opposition players in between. He tried one every game and often messed it up. Hopefully he has got that out his system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 Just now, Vive_La_Villa said: He tried one every game and often messed it up. Hopefully he has got that out his system. And somehow we never got punished for it lol. But I love mavericks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 Just now, Sulberto21 said: And somehow we never got punished for it lol. But I love mavericks. They are great when you’re winning games. When going through a bad patch they can be frustrating. We have a lot more options now though which is great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wict01 Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 8 minutes ago, TheMelvillan said: need him to play. havent got anyone else who will needlessly smash a half volley from a throw in across his own box from the right back to left back position, regardless of the number of opposition players in between. Love Bert's attempts at crossfield balls. Every game, without fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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