rodders0223 Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 When you've scored 20 plus goals and we've conceded 3 times from 3 crosses with free shots , centre of goal, unmarked 6 yards out....yoi absolutely can dig them out. I'd have gone worse. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callum Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 Ollie sounded like a captain last night. That’s exactly what I hope McGinn is saying behind the scenes. Then difference being that Ollie has the the recent performances and conduct for the words to stick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumstopdogs Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 (edited) Edited April 7 by Brumstopdogs 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 Playing like a lad who doesn't want to give Safegate any excuses for leaving him out of the Euro squad. He's been very consistent the last couple of months considering we as a team aren't very consistent at the moment. I'm thinking he's now ahead of Bailey and Luiz for POTS. The latter 2 have struggled of late, but I think that is probably down to being exposed. Leon through isolation of a natural RB and Dougie playing deeper and being smothered in the middle. Either way, thank the Lord Ollie hasn't let it affect his own game. He's been fantastic overall. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Adam2003 Posted April 7 Popular Post Share Posted April 7 2 minutes ago, avfc1982am said: I'm thinking he's now ahead of Bailey and Luiz for POTS 100% for me - you just can’t argue with those numbers. It’s been a step up from him from what was already a high base. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted April 7 VT Supporter Share Posted April 7 Love Ollie's comment. That's the way out of our shared Aston Villa syndrome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeMcKenna Posted April 7 VT Supporter Share Posted April 7 (edited) I think we should be very concerned about Ollie Watkins long term future at Villa following his comments about the team lacking a big team mentality. He one of the best strikers in the PL and wants to win stuff. If that doesn’t look possible at Villa, imho he will be off. Yesterday’s result may come to haunt us! Edited April 7 by MikeMcKenna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 2 minutes ago, Adam2003 said: 100% for me - you just can’t argue with those numbers. It’s been a step up from him from what was already a high base. I agree. I think he's become much more clinical this season. Very seldom does he miss sitters, always a willing runner and holds the ball much better than previously. I watched him early in the game yesterday and his first touch wasn't great for the first 20 but after that he hardly put a foot wrong. Everything stuck, he brought others continually into the game through the transition and was positionally where he needed to be when the final balls came into the box to earn his goals. He's been like this for a good few months now. Yeah he had a blip earlier in the season but nowhere near previous years. He's becoming Mr Clinical. I still think he needs to work on that first touch with his back to goal but I don't think anyone could argue how good he is at the moment. He's been fantastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villa_Vids Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 18 minutes ago, MikeMcKenna said: I think we should be very concerned about Ollie Watkins long term future at Villa following his comments about the team lacking a big team mentality. He one of the best strikers in the PL and wants to win stuff. If that doesn’t look possible at Villa, imho he will be off. Yesterday’s result may come to haunt us! I am not too concerned. I think Ollie was speaking in frustration at dropping the three points yesterday, I think OW is selecting and magnifying negatives too. I am sure when he reflects back on the full game - he will see a lot of positives. I get Ollie's sentiment (some of what he said) but I think it would have been better said internally - don't feed the media machine or shit on your colleagues. I think we have shown a "big team" mentality considering the injury list we have, which is the worst in the league. Since the Utd defeat - we fought back to win at Luton, we fought back to gain a point yesterday. Don't get me wrong, we have weaknesses but the team are in a new territory and there has been progression in the mentality since the Utd defeat in Dec. As Emery said...."be balanced" 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaJ100 Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 1 hour ago, Brumstopdogs said: That nob Southgate will still take Toney (hasn't scored in last instead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChesterDad Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 4 hours ago, avfc1982am said: I agree. I think he's become much more clinical this season. Very seldom does he miss sitters, always a willing runner and holds the ball much better than previously. I watched him early in the game yesterday and his first touch wasn't great for the first 20 but after that he hardly put a foot wrong. Everything stuck, he brought others continually into the game through the transition and was positionally where he needed to be when the final balls came into the box to earn his goals. He's been like this for a good few months now. Yeah he had a blip earlier in the season but nowhere near previous years. He's becoming Mr Clinical. I still think he needs to work on that first touch with his back to goal but I don't think anyone could argue how good he is at the moment. He's been fantastic. Yes I feel the same - If Ollie’s first touch improves as you say, it could catapult him into elite status among the very best strikers of this era on an international level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 7 hours ago, Brumstopdogs said: And he doesn't need penalties to boost his record. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlobalVillan Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 2 hours ago, ChesterDad said: Yes I feel the same - If Ollie’s first touch improves as you say, it could catapult him into elite status among the very best strikers of this era on an international level. His 1st touch for the goal at Luton was sublime. As was the winner at Spurs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Dog Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 If Arsenal (as rumoured) came in for him in the summer, what would be the minimum price you'd accept? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lichfield Dean Posted April 7 VT Supporter Share Posted April 7 3 minutes ago, T-Dog said: If Arsenal (as rumoured) came in for him in the summer, what would be the minimum price you'd accept? 1 stadium 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlobalVillan Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 22 minutes ago, T-Dog said: If Arsenal (as rumoured) came in for him in the summer, what would be the minimum price you'd accept? More than they (or anyone) will be prepared to offer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 24 minutes ago, T-Dog said: If Arsenal (as rumoured) came in for him in the summer, what would be the minimum price you'd accept? Half of Digne’s net worth. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChesterDad Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 36 minutes ago, GlobalVillan said: His 1st touch for the goal at Luton was sublime. As was the winner at Spurs. I am not disagreeing with you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPJCB Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 I’m not really sure what to make of Ollie’s comments yesterday. Of course they were mostly out of frustration and he can be forgiven for that. I never think it’s a good look though for a player to criticise his teammates, even implicitly. Ollie’s had a few off games as well- he took a while to get going this season. Would we think it reasonable for a defender to come out and implicitly criticise that? It is also worth noting that Ollie’s criticism isn’t actually valid based on evidence. We have an excellent record of winning games having taken the lead. If we have a problem this season that distinguishes us from the “big clubs” it’s not mentality. It’s simply squad quality. As Liverpool will attest today, even the best clubs throw away leads every now and then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enda Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 38 minutes ago, T-Dog said: If Arsenal (as rumoured) came in for him in the summer, what would be the minimum price you'd accept? There is no way we could replace Ollie with one footballer. The strategy would have to be to analyse and break down Ollie’s key attributes. His creativity, his assists, his goals. To find these qualities and others in three forward players. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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