Jareth Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 15 minutes ago, markavfc40 said: Biden is looking likely to take Wisconsin and Michigan, given the remaining votes are the mail in votes which massively favours Biden, which combined is 26 collage votes. Add in 11 from Arizona and that will be enough won't it? this could be settled today aside from the obvious legal side. AP report Biden on 238 (including Arizona) - so it's Wis. (10) Mich. (16) AND Nevada (6). But for sure there are options elsewhere still very much in play too - but so good to see Biden on 270 tomorrow just as Trump tries to sue over Pennsylvania. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante_Lockhart Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Crazy to see just how 50/50 some states are. There really doesn't seem a lot in a lot of them. Saying that, 49/51 could be 50,000 votes difference so I suppose there is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 4 minutes ago, Jareth said: AP report Biden on 238 (including Arizona) - so it's Wis. (10) Mich. (16) AND Nevada (6). But for sure there are options elsewhere still very much in play too - but so good to see Biden on 270 tomorrow just as Trump tries to sue over Pennsylvania. this is the ideal situation, 270 without PA and his tantrum 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 (edited) itshappening.gif Edited November 4, 2020 by a m ole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 16 minutes ago, a m ole said: itshappening.gif Save it for Milot in January. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted November 4, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted November 4, 2020 1 minute ago, The Fun Factory said: Save it for Milot in January. the thought of waking up on feb 1st with rachica still a bremen player and trump still president is a horrifying prospect... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 This is going to go on for a while, isn't it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 is Arizona the only confirmed flipped State so far? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuart_75 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 What time does the civil war start? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyrusr Posted November 4, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted November 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, Wainy316 said: is Arizona the only confirmed flipped State so far? And 1 vote in Nebraska. Although some still haven't formally called Arizona yet. Will feel happier if/when Michigan and/or Pennsylvania get a Biden majority. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted November 4, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted November 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, stuart_75 said: What time does the civil war start? I would say either tomorrow when Nevada declares Biden or whenever Michigen flips, whichever occurs second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Wainy316 said: is Arizona the only confirmed flipped State so far? That weird bit of Nebraska. And I don't believe that Arizona is technically confirmed yet. Edit- as said in near identifical fashion above. Edited November 4, 2020 by ml1dch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Wainy316 said: is Arizona the only confirmed flipped State so far? Yes, though it's only half-confirmed anyway. Seems like Wisconsin may not be too far behind. EDIT: Good points to those above about NE-2, that did flip. Edited November 4, 2020 by HanoiVillan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 1 hour ago, mjmooney said: More or less, yeah. And it depends what kind of libertarian you are. Right wing libertarian - little or no control of economics (unfettered free market capitalism), but lots of control of 'social' issues (anti-gay,anti-abortion, pro-religion, etc.) Left wing libertarian - state control of economics (high taxes, price controls, nationalised industries, workers' protection), but little interference in social issues (legal abortions, decriminalised drugs, equal rights for gays, etc.) Count me in as a left-libertarian. Does that even need the word Libertarian? It basically perfectly fits the mould of how somebody would define left and right these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted November 4, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted November 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Jareth said: Biden now 12k behind in Michigan (from 40k 10 mins ago) it'll be a lead within the hour. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leemond2008 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Am I right in thinking that even if this is close in numbers that because they are now mainly counting the postal votes that it is almost impossible for Biden to lose? I don't agree with postal votes being delivered after the election date, especially in the volatile climate that they are in at the moment, is there a reason why the postal votes can't start and end earlier so that they can all be guaranteed to be received by a certain date rather than having a few trickle in days later? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted November 4, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted November 4, 2020 Why the flipping frilg didn't those rusty states start counting the post as it came in? Trump's been threatening this legal action for weeks now. Could have headed this off at the pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Just now, leemond2008 said: Am I right in thinking that even if this is close in numbers that because they are now mainly counting the postal votes that it is almost impossible for Biden to lose? I don't agree with postal votes being delivered after the election date, especially in the volatile climate that they are in at the moment, is there a reason why the postal votes can't start and end earlier so that they can all be guaranteed to be received by a certain date rather than having a few trickle in days later? If you have a POTUS defunding the Postal Service, leading to... if there's an issue with delivery, why should you be disenfranchised? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 Just now, sidcow said: Why the flipping frilg didn't those rusty states start counting the post as it came in? Trump's been threatening this legal action for weeks now. Could have headed this off at the pass. Republican held governance said nope. Start counting when polls close. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, sidcow said: Why the flipping frilg didn't those rusty states start counting the post as it came in? Trump's been threatening this legal action for weeks now. Could have headed this off at the pass. Would it be hugely surprising to learn that the Republican legislature in the relevant states refused requests to let them do so? Edited November 4, 2020 by ml1dch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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