Awol Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 (edited) 16 minutes ago, LondonLax said: You mean CNN’s social media guy is planting these ideas on behalf of the Democrats? Or are the Democrats directly telling CNN’s twitter guy what to write? I think it’s just that whoever wrote the tweet was editorialising based on their own thoughts, not a coordinated strategy. The media are far more partisan in the US though, aren’t they. Donna Brazile was under contract with CNN when she leaked the debate questions in advance to Hilary last time round - though she was sacked when it came out. CNN is obviously more aligned editorially with the wider Democratic Party platform than with the Trump Show Republicans, I’d be surprised if there wasn’t a two-way unofficial dialogue almost constantly. Edit: as there will be between Trump’s people and Fox. Edited August 12, 2020 by Awol 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 Quote President Trump’s son-in-law and senior adviser, Jared Kushner, met privately last weekend with Kanye West, the rapper who has filed petitions to get on the November ballots for president in several states. The meeting took place in Colorado, where Mr. Kushner was traveling with his wife, Ivanka Trump, those familiar with the meeting said. Mr. West had been camping in Colorado with his family, and afterward flew to Telluride to meet with Mr. Kushner and Ms. Trump, but was not accompanied by his wife, Kim Kardashian West, those with knowledge of the meeting said. The meeting came at a notable time. Mr. West recently criticized Joseph R. Biden Jr. in an interview with Forbes. He did not deny that he is acting as a spoiler to damage the Biden campaign with his effort to get on several ballots in states like Colorado, where he will appear. https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/08/12/us/biden-vs-trump#kanye-west-who-is-pursuing-a-spot-on-the-2020-ballot-met-with-jared-kushner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 I wouldn’t mind seeing a Venn diagram showing how much overlap there is between ‘People who would vote of Kanye West’ and ‘People who take politics seriously enough that they will actually vote in a US election’. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 (from here: https://www.politico.eu/article/kamala-harris-what-you-need-to-know/) You might also want to know that her step-children call her 'Momala'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 Trump is like Brexit, a lot of people will vote for it/him but keep it secret to avoid being judged or questioned on why they think it’s a good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 On 11/08/2020 at 20:42, Keyblade said: Oh don't worry, they think Harris is a commie too. Glad to see her and Joe worked out their differences on segregation though. Called it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sne Posted August 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 13, 2020 What even is this 1 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Stevo985 Posted August 13, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted August 13, 2020 15 hours ago, LondonLax said: I wouldn’t mind seeing a Venn diagram showing how much overlap there is between ‘People who would vote of Kanye West’ and ‘People who take politics seriously enough that they will actually vote in a US election’. I think if the choice was Kanye West or Donald Trump, I'd vote Kanye West every day of the week. Genuinely If there was an ACTUAL politician in the race though, I wouldn't vote for West Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted August 13, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted August 13, 2020 It's a shame the Democrats didn't have the balls just to put up Harris as their main candidate in the first place. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 13, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted August 13, 2020 2 hours ago, sne said: What even is this This looks like something you'd make in Double IT when the teacher wasn't looking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amsterdam_Neil_D Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Stevo985 said: This looks like something you'd make in Double IT when the teacher wasn't looking It is quite funny though in a toddler type way Don't forget every race starts with a first step Edited August 13, 2020 by Amsterdam_Neil_D 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 4 hours ago, Stevo985 said: This looks like something you'd make in Double IT when the teacher wasn't looking Perhaps, but in terms of messaging, compare with the vid linked by Blandy above. That goes on and on. The message contained therein is so important but the effectiveness of the delivery is ruined. It should have been broken into a number of shorter on point vids. The Trump vid, regardless of the message therein is short and on point. Given the "independents" are the target market, which msg is more likely to have made an impact? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted August 13, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted August 13, 2020 10 minutes ago, villakram said: Perhaps, but in terms of messaging, compare with the vid linked by Blandy above. That goes on and on. The message contained therein is so important but the effectiveness of the delivery is ruined. It should have been broken into a number of shorter on point vids. The Trump vid, regardless of the message therein is short and on point. Given the "independents" are the target market, which msg is more likely to have made an impact? I don't disagree or care to be honest. It was just funny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meregreen Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 29 minutes ago, villakram said: Perhaps, but in terms of messaging, compare with the vid linked by Blandy above. That goes on and on. The message contained therein is so important but the effectiveness of the delivery is ruined. It should have been broken into a number of shorter on point vids. The Trump vid, regardless of the message therein is short and on point. Given the "independents" are the target market, which msg is more likely to have made an impact? So good I couldn’t stop watching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 45 minutes ago, villakram said: The Trump vid, regardless of the message therein is short and on point. Given the "independents" are the target market, which msg is more likely to have made an impact? I agree, and will make another comparison to Brexit. The people running that campaign, like Trumps manage to get little bits of information to stick and stay in peoples mind. “we need to build a wall” and “Hilary is a crook”. It gets delivered in a very memorable way for the target audience. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted August 13, 2020 Moderator Share Posted August 13, 2020 10 minutes ago, Genie said: I agree, and will make another comparison to Brexit. The people running that campaign, like Trumps manage to get little bits of information to stick and stay in peoples mind. “we need to build a wall” and “Hilary is a crook”. It gets delivered in a very memorable way for the target audience. That's true, or was true. I wonder whether people will start to tire of 3 word messages and in the light of the general cluster-pork, start to want a little more? If they'll start to be a bit more questioning of stuff like "Stay at home protect the NHS" or "MAGA" or "Build the Wall" in the light of PPE scandals and the USA's death and joblessness rates and so on. You'd hope so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, blandy said: You'd hope so. I would, but I think if anything it’ll go more the other way. People don’t trust experts anymore so won’t invest time to understand the detail. People make up their minds based on memes on social media now that’s why images of refugees and big red buses with writing on the side are so powerful. Edited August 13, 2020 by Genie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted August 13, 2020 Moderator Share Posted August 13, 2020 Just now, Genie said: I would, but I think if anything it’ll go more the other way. People don’t trust experts anymore so won’t invest time to understand the detail. People make up their minds based on memes on social media now. Fair enough. Optimistically, perhaps I tend to think people will come the crunch (e.g. the US election) want to hear more than slogans and name calling and that they'll make a degree of judgement on how the incumbent has helped them or not and which promises have been kept or broken. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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