Follyfoot Posted December 6, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted December 6, 2021 Not sure if there is anything in it or not but he walked off whilst the rest of the team were taking the plaudits in front of the Holte, Probably nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 I'd look to start him over JJ next game. We can't give the ball away so cheaply against Liverpool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 (edited) 13 hours ago, hippo said: Why? - his current one has a while to run. only 18 months left.... One thing he needs to improve is his energy levels, he just seems to drift around the pitch. When you come on as a sub you should be flying around the place when you are fresh and everyone else is tired. Edited December 6, 2021 by villa89 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmygreaves Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 12 minutes ago, villa89 said: One thing he needs to improve is his energy levels, he just seems to drift around the pitch. When you come on as a sub you should be flying around the place when you are fresh and everyone else is tired. He's always played in that kind of languid, not rushed manner whenever I've seen him. That's how he plays, that's what's got him to the fringes of the first team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brommy Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 I think he needs to work harder without the ball. A couple of times we lost the ball and Leicester broke quickly, Carney was slow jogging back to support. Any player only on for the final 25 minutes should be capable of showing more effort and urgency. I’d also like to see him happier at a Villa win but that’s probably just me wishing every Villa player absolutely loves our club. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted December 6, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted December 6, 2021 2 hours ago, DCJonah said: I'd look to start him over JJ next game watch out, the mob will come to get you for suggesting that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 45 minutes ago, jimmygreaves said: He's always played in that kind of languid, not rushed manner whenever I've seen him. That's how he plays, that's what's got him to the fringes of the first team. Yes I've seen the same but I would argue that it's his first touch, ability to dribble and good passing that's got him into the first team. If he wants to be a starter then he won't get away with low energy performances. It's fine in the youths when you are miles better than everyone else, that won't be the case in the premier league. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blunther Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 (edited) 48 minutes ago, brommy said: I think he needs to work harder without the ball. A couple of times we lost the ball and Leicester broke quickly, Carney was slow jogging back to support. Any player only on for the final 25 minutes should be capable of showing more effort and urgency. I’d also like to see him happier at a Villa win but that’s probably just me wishing every Villa player absolutely loves our club. I may be doing him a misservice here, but the lack of urgency, walking straight off the pitch, the contract stuff.. seems to point to another young player with an attitude problem who's been spoiled by money and greed. I hope I'm wrong. Footballwise, my concern with him is he's so physically developed that I'm sure that would have made playing in the youth leagues a doddle for him. Will he be able to adjust to such a physical league and still stand out? Time will tell. Edited December 6, 2021 by blunther 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 Loving The Chuckmeister Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 5 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: watch out, the mob will come to get you for suggesting that! The mob? Ramsey has been playing really well tbh - nothing to suggest he should be dropped. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted December 6, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted December 6, 2021 5 minutes ago, bobzy said: The mob? Ramsey has been playing really well tbh - nothing to suggest he should be dropped. It was a joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 57 minutes ago, jimmygreaves said: He's always played in that kind of languid, not rushed manner whenever I've seen him. That's how he plays, that's what's got him to the fringes of the first team. And might keep him there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntrimBlack Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 Ramsey much the better player at this stage, and is improving all the time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brommy Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 4 minutes ago, blunther said: I may be doing him a misservice here, but the lack of urgency, walking straight off the pitch, the contract stuff.. seems to point to another young player with an attitude problem who's been spoiled by money and greed. I hope I'm wrong. Footballwise, my concern with him is he's so physically developed that I'm sure that would have made playing in the youth leagues a doddle for him. Will he be able to adjust to such a physical league and still stand out? Time will tell. Us fans obviously don’t know the full picture with Carney so I can only suspect you’re not wrong regarding his current attitude. It’s important for Carney, the club and us fans to know there’s still time, given his young age and still closer (just) to two than one football years of his contract remaining, for Carney to mature his attitude. Having just watched the 21 minute talk with Gerrard at BMH, I’m more confident that SG is the right manager to say and do the right things for Carney’s Villa development. The rest is then up to Carney and (probably unfortunately) his advisers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steero113 Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 17 minutes ago, AntrimBlack said: Ramsey much the better player at this stage, and is improving all the time. Ramsey is also 29 months older. Chukwuemeka is staggeringly good for his age in that position. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Your Round Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 29 minutes ago, bobzy said: The mob? Ramsey has been playing really well tbh - nothing to suggest he should be dropped. Sounds like something a mobster would say… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 i wouldn't mistake Chukwuemeka's style of play on the ball as laziness, and languid is certainly an unfair descritpion, he's a very hard working player and covers a lot of ground all over the pitch and does his fair share of tackling back. His style of play on the ball is what has made him one of the best academy players in the country and got him playing as first team player at the age of seventeen, it's what makes him so good, he plays at his own pace, probably also should be pointed out that he only slows the game down in certain situations, in other situations he can do the exact opposite. As for comparison's between him and Jacob Ramsey, of course Ramsey is going to look the better player now, he's had much more first team experience and is almost three years older. I think some might be reading too much into the stories about him refusing to sign a contract and as a result letting those stories color their opinion of him and his game. Which is unfair as the best source for youth footbal 'The Secret Scout' came out and said the stories weren't true and Chukwuemeka's people were baffled by them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 3 hours ago, DCJonah said: I'd look to start him over JJ next game. We can't give the ball away so cheaply against Liverpool. Not sure about that at all if i'm honest mate. Full 90 PL is different gravy. In the one start he's had, he didn't look great, I did see more from him yesterday than I have so far though. Now, that's not even me saying JJ should start, as much as i love him. I'd be tempted to start a more senior/experienced player, If we are replacing JJ, I'd probably even go Sanson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fun Factory Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 15 hours ago, Zatman said: Wins cheap free kicks, wonder where i saw that before Ashley Young nods approvingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steero113 Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 Just now, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Not sure about that at all if i'm honest mate. Full 90 PL is different gravy. In the one start he's had, he didn't look great, I did see more from him yesterday than I have so far though. Now, that's not even me saying JJ should start, as much as i love him. I'd be tempted to start a more senior/experienced player, If we are replacing JJ, I'd probably even go Sanson. To be fair, in his only start he was playing out and out CM, not necessarily his best position and it was his full PL debut. If he were to be given a start as one of the two 10's in Gerrard's system I think he would look completely different. I'd like to see him given a start against either Norwich or Burnley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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