Demitri_C Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 By the way those who work for nhs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnkarl Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 (edited) A professor friend of mine in Norway sent me their biggest national paper's tracker page. It's got really in depth stats and all sorts of graphs. I don't understand much of it unless I google translate it but it's a good set of information for people on both their national situation and the world situation. https://www.vg.no/spesial/2020/corona/?utm_source=coronav They've even got bloody stats on how many people are in hospital vs how many people are in respirators. Boris take note!! Edited March 20, 2020 by magnkarl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 (edited) 37 minutes ago, sne said: Gotta wonder is the above average number of young people in the US getting bad symptoms compared to other countries is down to the widespread smoking of weed? It's probably better for your lungs than smoking regular tobacco but it's still not great for your lungs. And it seems like everyone over there is doing it all the time. Might be a lazy stereotype from me. But if ever there was an incentive to stop smoking then now you have it. Haha if that was a major contributing factor I’d be dead by now, so no, I doubt it is. And Cannabis is alleged to have significant healing qualities so any damage from the smoking should be offset by those medical benefits. Edited March 20, 2020 by bannedfromHandV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, bannedfromHandV said: Haha if that was a major contributing factor I’d be dead by now, so no, I doubt it is. And Cannabis is alleged to have significant healing qualities so any damage from the smoking should be offset by those medical benefits. Think you misunderstood. Not suggesting people who smoke are more likely to get the virus. But that as this effects the lungs more than anything those who smoke suffer worse from the virus. At least that's what the studies from China are saying. Cannabis is not as bad as tobacco for the lungs but it's still harmful if you smoke a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choffer Posted March 20, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted March 20, 2020 1 hour ago, bannedfromHandV said: Genuine thought/question and probably already covered but could the severity in spread in Italy and Spain be because they all kiss each other on the face when they greet one another? Has to have been a contributing factor surely?? Possibly exacerbated by the church (both still very in thrall to the papacy, those countries). The communion cup is a device that you’d imagine would have a fantastic ability to spread the virus. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted March 20, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted March 20, 2020 45 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: But this annoys me. We're all adults. Why does where you work change the work you do, if all of your work is on a PC? My team all work from home 2/3 times a week anyway, so for us, this wasn't much of a change. We just sent monitors and docking stations home via taxi for those who don't have them. But we use SCRUM as our methodology meaning my team are expected to self-manage their work anyway Yeah I get it. Which is why I think she did it as a bit of motivation rather than directly telling everyone "Don't do **** all when you're at home" We can't take any hardware home, which will make it much trickier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted March 20, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted March 20, 2020 38 minutes ago, Genie said: Quite a few Romanian's in my office, they always start the day by shaking everybody's hand, every day without fail. You're lucky to get a grunted "morning" out of a fellow Brit. The french do that too. First time I worked from our French office I thought everyone was so friendly because everyone was coming over and introducing themselves to me. Took me a while to realise they were shaking everyone else's hand too! Felt like a right tit because I'd been introducing myself to all of them and they'd just been saying good morning 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 I get that speed is of the essence, and I'm out here saying we need to be much quicker about everything, but this type of stuff does not inspire confidence: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 47 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: But this annoys me. We're all adults. Why does where you work change the work you do, if all of your work is on a PC? My team all work from home 2/3 times a week anyway, so for us, this wasn't much of a change. We just sent monitors and docking stations home via taxi for those who don't have them. But we use SCRUM as our methodology meaning my team are expected to self-manage their work anyway I don't have a job where I can WFH but I guess they don't trust everyone to be self-motivated. Obviously the majority will be fine and do a great job but the bosses probably think 'you're only as a good as your worst worker' so try to avoid it. I hope more companies do it though and get a positive result out of it because it could have a decent environmental impact in the long run if it takes a big chunk of commuters off the roads every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Yeah I get it. Which is why I think she did it as a bit of motivation rather than directly telling everyone "Don't do **** all when you're at home" We can't take any hardware home, which will make it much trickier. Luckily as an IT equipment provider, as well as service provider, we have all of our own stuff meaning it's a bit freer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 Just now, sharkyvilla said: I don't have a job where I can WFH but I guess they don't trust everyone to be self-motivated. Obviously the majority will be fine and do a great job but the bosses probably think 'you're only as a good as your worst worker' so try to avoid it. I hope more companies do it though and get a positive result out of it because it could have a decent environmental impact in the long run if it takes a big chunk of commuters off the roads every day. As opposed to what? Being in the office and the boss standing over them cracking the whip? People with a lack of self-motivation will be unmotivated regardless of where they sit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted March 20, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted March 20, 2020 1 minute ago, sharkyvilla said: I don't have a job where I can WFH but I guess they don't trust everyone to be self-motivated. Obviously the majority will be fine and do a great job but the bosses probably think 'you're only as a good as your worst worker' so try to avoid it. I hope more companies do it though and get a positive result out of it because it could have a decent environmental impact in the long run if it takes a big chunk of commuters off the roads every day. Yep. And while I advocate WFH in general, I do think usually some discretion is advised. At a time when everyone will be suddenly WFH, and managers don't have time to adjust to it or change how the team works etc, I don't think it's unreasonable for a director to give a bit of a pep talk to remind people of their responsibilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted March 20, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted March 20, 2020 1 minute ago, StefanAVFC said: Luckily as an IT equipment provider, as well as service provider, we have all of our own stuff meaning it's a bit freer. YEah and our site (Wolves) owns their IT equipment rather than lease it which is apparently how most of our other sites operate. So the company guideline is we can't take anything home. But we might be able to get out of that. They're apparently trying to find a way to track what goes out and comes back, understandably. I'll still be smuggling out a keyboard and mouse later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mjvilla Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, mjmooney said: I keep thinking about this 'isolation and WFH for everyone except essential workers' thing. Everybody knows who this is, right? Doctors and nurses Supermarket staff Military, police and emergency services So, is that all it takes to keep society functioning? How about: Dock workers (we still import stuff, right?) PSV and lorry drivers (the latter, inevitably, are moving around the country - possible spreaders) Sanitation workers - binmen, water supply and sewage processing plant staff Power supply and maintenance staff Broadcasters (public information) Farmers and farm labourers, abbatoir staff Electricians, plumbers, builders Pilots, groundcrew, air traffic control (tourism may have stopped, but freight, etc.) Zookeepers (although I guess they could kill all the animals, eventually) Vetinarians Highways maintenance Teachers and childcare for the children of health workers Hospital administration and clerical staff ...etc., etc. This is just the tip of the iceberg. The people who can work from home are a minority, and they are the very lucky ones - they get to stay at home and still draw a salary. Everybody else is either still out there working and risking their lives, or suddenly without a job or means of support. Yes, so-called 'total' lockdown is required, but what percentage of the population constitutes 'total'? Unless The Machine Stops ... I work in a food production factory, it might only be chocolate but it is still food. Management could work from home I suppose but we have to go to work to produce. They won't stop us so we are on shift and as a result of this virus, overtime is through the roof so I'm going to work more than usual. We can't be locked down, we have to produce food for people. Edited March 20, 2020 by Mjvilla 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted March 20, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted March 20, 2020 10 minutes ago, Mjvilla said: I work in a food production factory, it might only be chocolate but it is still food. Management could work from home I suppose but we have to go to work to produce. They won't stop us so we are on shift and as a result of this virus, overtime is through the roof so I'm going to work more than usual. We can't be locked down, we have to produce food for people. Exactly my point. 'Essential workers' aren't some small, specialist crew of handpicked volunteers - they are the bulk of the working population. True lockdown is impossible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pas5898 Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 31 minutes ago, sne said: Gotta wonder is the above average number of young people in the US getting bad symptoms compared to other countries is down to the widespread smoking of weed? It's probably better for your lungs than smoking regular tobacco but it's still not great for your lungs. And it seems like everyone over there is doing it all the time. Might be a lazy stereotype from me. But if ever there was an incentive to stop smoking then now you have it. Obesity is a huge risk factor. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 (edited) Australia housing prices heading towards crash, Wouldn't rule it out happening over here @Stevo985 Australian housing market will hit the wall in coronavirus recession, experts say Economists say house prices could fall as much as 20% if the recession lasts longer than six months https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/mar/20/australian-housing-market-will-hit-the-wall-in-coronavirus-recession-experts-say Edited March 20, 2020 by Kingman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 26 minutes ago, pas5898 said: Obesity is a huge risk factor. It always is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 Exclusive: London hospital trust becomes first to admit it is turning away coronavirus patients Lewisham and Greenwich NHS Trust has said it has transferred Covid-19 patients to neighbouring hospitals as demand for treatment surges A London hospital trust has become the first to admit it is turning away coronavirus patients, as NHS chiefs warned services in the capital are on the brink of being overwhelmed. Lewisham and Greenwich NHS Trust said it has transferred Covid-19 patients to neighbouring hospitals, as demand for lifesaving treatment surges. A senior clinician at the trust revealed that at one stage on Tuesday only one patient had been admitted to intensive care out of an eligible group of five, although the trust insists all who have required ventilation have so far received it. It came as the death toll from the disease rose most sharply in London, with 16 of the total 29 new fatalities in England coming from the capital.... https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/03/19/exclusive-london-hospital-trust-becomes-first-admit-turning/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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