Demitri_C Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 56 minutes ago, nick76 said: A simple booster can help people you come across that are more vulnerable whether friends, family or just people you come across that may be at more risk. As many studies have shown that while the vaccinated do transmit the disease the infectiousness percentage chance is reduced. For me, 15 minutes out of my day for a simple free injection is a small price if it makes just a slight bit of difference and get flu vaccination at the same time. We all have vulnerable people in our lives, whether elderly or have some issue, so for me it’s a simple decision. Loads of studies across the internet…just picked the first on the google search. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-022-02138-x Thats fine nick i get your point and i have not said in capacity its wrong but at same time i have no objection to anyone that doesnt want a booster either. Covids over, people are not social distancing and we dont even hear about covid deaths now so people can do as they please. But some people putting pointless posts thats its not about 'you' wtf you babbling on about. I havent said it's about me 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 5 minutes ago, bickster said: There is no generally available Covid vaccine this year, you have to be over 65 or certain conditions etc My work still offers it to staff regardless of age but its because its nhs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 (edited) My grandparents are still having the boosters when they are offered Edited November 16, 2023 by Genie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted November 16, 2023 Moderator Share Posted November 16, 2023 1 minute ago, Demitri_C said: My work still offers it to staff regardless of age but its because its nhs. Yes, same for my missus. But not everyone works for the NHS or has access to a vaccine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trekka Posted November 16, 2023 VT Supporter Share Posted November 16, 2023 It's interesting that deaths due to COVID are rising apparently (compared with falling positive rates - lack of testing?). Whether that is death by COVID or death with COVID is anyone's guess though (I haven't really looked into the data ). The fact that deaths are rising gives me reason to give caution if I feel a little bit weary or have a snotty nose etc before seeing my vulnerable folks. That said, we're a long way off previous horrific numbers: UK Gov Dashboard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 I’m a unsociable bastard anyway so people need not worry about catching it off me if I were to get it again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 There’s an older lady works in our local M&S Foodhall. She elects to wear a mask. Every time she speaks to someone she pulls the mask down and leans in to them. Brilliant. I do love a character. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 I’m surprised how many shops still have perspex screens up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 10 minutes ago, Genie said: I’m surprised how many shops still have perspex screens up. Probably bulletproof screens, you must live in a rough area Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 22 minutes ago, Genie said: I’m surprised how many shops still have perspex screens up. I’m surprised more haven’t left them up to be honest. They are of very little inconvenience and even forgetting Covid, the amount of people some shop workers engage with daily, that a little protection from all those viruses and colds that are about is not such a bad thing especially when the odd few don’t have basic manners with sneezing, coughing or spit when they talk. You obviously still get that when your out and about personally but doesn’t hurt to have simple things like that when you are in that kind of working environment imo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, nick76 said: I’m surprised more haven’t left them up to be honest. They are of very little inconvenience and even forgetting Covid, the amount of people some shop workers engage with daily, that a little protection from all those viruses and colds that are about is not such a bad thing especially when the odd few don’t have basic manners with sneezing, coughing or spit when they talk. You obviously still get that when your out and about personally but doesn’t hurt to have simple things like that when you are in that kind of working environment imo. They are a pain in the arse. My local spar still has them up, you have to pass the good through tiny gap to be scanned, and then back through in a bag. Mcdonalds still had them up too making handing over the food an inconvenience. Plus they can’t hear you when you ask for sauce. Finally, they clearly don’t do anything, if the virus is in the air then it’s going through that gap (or over, or around it). Edited November 16, 2023 by Genie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 1 minute ago, Genie said: They are a pain in the arse. My local spar still has them up, you have to pass the good through tiny gap to be scanned, and then back through in a bag. Mcdonalds still had them up too making handing over the food an inconvenience. Plus they can’t hear you when you ask for sauce. Fair enough, maybe the places I frequent I don’t have so much trouble as your locals. 2 minutes ago, Genie said: Finally, they clearly don’t do anything, if the virus is in the air then it’s going through that gap. That’s not true, there is more chance of infection by direct initial particles than lingering particles by a considerable distance hence why the screen is of value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 2 hours ago, Demitri_C said: Thats fine nick i get your point and i have not said in capacity its wrong but at same time i have no objection to anyone that doesnt want a booster either. Covids over, people are not social distancing and we dont even hear about covid deaths now so people can do as they please. But some people putting pointless posts thats its not about 'you' wtf you babbling on about. I havent said it' about me Lets hug it out @fruitvilla Unless your still social distancing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Genie said: They are a pain in the arse. My local spar still has them up, you have to pass the good through tiny gap to be scanned, and then back through in a bag. Mcdonalds still had them up too making handing over the food an inconvenience. Plus they can’t hear you when you ask for sauce. Finally, they clearly don’t do anything, if the virus is in the air then it’s going through that gap (or over, or around it). I'm not a regular at maccies, but the ones at Bassets Pole, and in Lichfield city centre don't have screens. Must be that rough one you frequent 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 1 minute ago, Xela said: I'm not a regular at maccies, but the ones at Bassets Pole, and in Lichfield city centre don't have screens. Must be that rough one you frequent Haha, could be! I’m sure the one on the old A5 in Tamworth still has them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayls Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, trekka said: It's interesting that deaths due to COVID are rising apparently (compared with falling positive rates - lack of testing?). Whether that is death by COVID or death with COVID is anyone's guess though (I haven't really looked into the data ). The fact that deaths are rising gives me reason to give caution if I feel a little bit weary or have a snotty nose etc before seeing my vulnerable folks. That said, we're a long way off previous horrific numbers: UK Gov Dashboard My mothers death last year was recorded as a three stage thing (I can’t remember the medical term used). Essentially she was hospitalised on Boxing Day last year with breathing difficulties, where she was diagnosed with Covid. This then lead to Pulmonary Emboli, which then lead to Cardiac Arrest (over a 3 day period). So whilst ultimately it was the CA which killed her, they still recorded covid as the first factor. And I believe if someone passes with any illness, and they happen to develop covid just before their passing, then covid will be recorded as well. It’s a weird thing still, covid. Killing people daily but we have already adapted to it now. It does make me angry when people say it’s just a ‘bad cold’ though. A cold wouldn’t/shouldn't have killed my mother at 61 years of age... Edited November 16, 2023 by Tayls 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sid4ever Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 3 hours ago, bickster said: There is no generally available Covid vaccine this year, you have to be over 65 or certain conditions etc I had to shield and have now had 6 jabs, will continue to get one every time it’s offered. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitvilla Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 47 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Lets hug it out @fruitvilla Unless your still social distancing Sure ... but I do have a bit of a sniffle at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpid Posted November 16, 2023 Administrator Share Posted November 16, 2023 5 hours ago, Seat68 said: You dare come after my me in the future. You let something glaring slide but I use principle instead of principal and you are all over it. It would be hard to "come after" someone in the past. On principle. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted November 16, 2023 Share Posted November 16, 2023 I get the flu jab every year and every covid vaccine offered to me. I have no idea why people wouldn’t - but we live in a strange world. Also, I had a bad cold maybe 5 weeks ago - almost flu like, but not quite that. I did 2 covid tests which were both negative but I’ve had a cough since. It’s so **** annoying now . Missus has it as well. I presume it still could be covid? Anyone else had/heard of such a long-term “cold” recently? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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