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4 hours ago, Delphinho123 said:

McGinn and Kamara are better.

Luiz is overrated on here. Good player but we treat him like he’s a world beater when I don’t think he is tbh. He’s been average a lot this season in matches. 

I agree tbh

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2 minutes ago, avfc1982am said:

Luiz is our best midfielder, the stats back it up, the price tag for him would back it up and Emery's persistence in picking him backs it up. He's had a drop off in form, nothing else. The way some people go on you'd think nobody else has been poor at times. People are just too quick to turn without thinking that since Kamara has been out and Dendonker was moved on Dougie has been having to drop deeper and back into the 6 role much more frequent. He's been overworked this season, nothing more. 

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Dougie is the best midfielder at Villa and the margin isn't even close. The #1 piece of evidence, that fraud Steven sat him, Watkins and Mings on the bench. Pretty much the spine of our team under Unai. 

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54 minutes ago, mrchnry said:

Has looked knackered the last few games so a break might help him and us. As long as we can keep it together without him 

We've struggled, a little, to keep it together with him, so without him will be interesting, and difficult.

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When he's been missing before he's been missed, the midfield is always poorer without him.  He's always had a problem giving stupid fouls away though.  When he first arrived I lost count of the times he'd get caught on the ball and lose it and then concede a foul with a clumsy attempt to get it back.  He's way past the getting caught on the ball habit (which Kamara seemed to inherit) but still seems to go into a lot of challenges like a runaway train, going straight through players.  Citeh's second goal came from a needless free kick concede by Doug, very shortly after he'd conceded one in a similar spot.  He comes across as not being able to learn from his mistakes in that respect and perhaps not the brightest of individuals.    

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Luiz is class but he's at his best as a 6/8 with Kamara at 6 and when Kamara isn't there we're asking a lot of him. Thankfully he answers the call, but we don't have a plug and play replacement for Kamara and this is the main problem in our midfield. Luiz needs that other pivot to do his job to get the most out of him. 

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Luiz is crucial to us, and a top top player, but it's a team game and missing Kamara has had an impact on Dougies form.

Kamara has been our biggest loss this season.

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He has had to carry the midfield the last few games. He's a number 8 not 6 imo. If we had a decent replacement for Kamara Luiz could strut his stuff further up the pitch. 

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Douglas is without a doubt a crucial cog in the team that has brought us to the verge of CL qualification. He would walk into a top 4 team if he left us and is arguably our most valuable player, his presence in our side is a big part of why we were ourselves in the top 4 until yesterday.    

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The problem with Luiz being out isn't just related to how well or not he's been playing, it's that other than Iroegbunam he was our only available midfielder suited to playing in the two man midfield. Now we're going to have to either ask McGinn and Tielemans to do a job there or trust Iroegbunam, but not none of the combinations available to us will be ideal, it wasn't ideal as it was without Kamara, our only specialist DM

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11 hours ago, Delphinho123 said:

McGinn and Kamara are better.

Luiz is overrated on here. Good player but we treat him like he’s a world beater when I don’t think he is tbh. He’s been average a lot this season in matches. 

Kamara is better, I agree. Kamara is different class. McGinn better than Dougie though? Not for me.

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52 minutes ago, Tom13 said:

Kamara is better, I agree. Kamara is different class. McGinn better than Dougie though? Not for me.

Kamara is a better 6 because he's more defensively aware and better screening the back 4, but Dougie is just an all round better player in the opponents half. They're both great at what they both specialise in which are 2 completely different roles. 

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2 minutes ago, avfc1982am said:

Kamara is a better 6 because he's more defensively aware and better screening the back 4, but Dougie is just an all round better player in the opponents half. They're both great at what they both specialise in which are 2 completely different roles. 

Oh I agree. But if I was manager of a team who needed a 6 and an 8 in equal measures, I'd fill the 6 spot with Kamara. Best way of explaining it I guess. Or in FM terms, IMO Kamara would have a higher CA/PA than Dougie. But that's just my view.

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1 minute ago, Tom13 said:

Oh I agree. But if I was manager of a team who needed a 6 and an 8 in equal measures, I'd fill the 6 spot with Kamara. Best way of explaining it I guess. Or in FM terms, IMO Kamara would have a higher CA/PA than Dougie. But that's just my view.

We've all got our favs and 100% Dougie is mine in this squad, but yeah Kamara is a much better DM. Dougie I'd argue isn't really a DM anyway, he's just played there for a period of his time with us. If anything this season proves we probably wasted him in that role at times until Kamara arrived, he's 100% an 8 and our best at that particular role. So I guess we agree overall. 

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