Delphinho123 Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 Has he ever been able to recreate that brief form after project restart? And also, was his form THAT good in that period or was it a case of teams being sluggish after a long break? He’ll be gone in the Summer I’m afraid and quite frankly, if we can get anywhere near £30m for him with his contract situation, I think we’ve done well. He’s not a bad player but he just isn’t kicking on at all and I don’t think he has the pace and athleticism to play as an 8. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 I think its funny a lot of Villa fans are happy to sell him but will bizarrely end up starting for a team higher up than us Its like these scouts at Tottenham, Arsenal or Roma dont visit football forums 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted February 12, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted February 12, 2022 5 minutes ago, Zatman said: I think its funny a lot of Villa fans are happy to sell him but will bizarrely end up starting for a team higher up than us Its like these scouts at Tottenham, Arsenal or Roma dont visit football forums If he's not going to sign a contract we'd be stupid not to sell him. I'd like to keep him but he's not a defensive midfielder. It's not his fault he's being picked to play there I guess. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 3 minutes ago, PieFacE said: If he's not going to sign a contract we'd be stupid not to sell him. I'd like to keep him but he's not a defensive midfielder. It's not his fault he's being picked to play there I guess. I do agree with that and I think he will leave. People saying we can do better when he will be actually moving up the league just makes me laugh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaParkAvenue Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 I just checked back on games this season where Doug or Marv played as nr 6. Was expecting Marv to have the better defensive numbers as most seem to prefer him in the holding position and Doug further up the pitch. Doug has played 13 games at DM and Marv 9. With Doug we’ve conceded 19 goals, 1.46 per game on average, five clean sheets. With Marv we conceded 16 goals, 1.78 per game, one clean sheet. (With Bissouma, we obviously wouldn’t have conceded at all) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itsdjw2 Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 He is a top quality player and we need to keep him. Starting 11 every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete101 Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 He is a 6 in a Pep Guardiola team but until we control the ball to that degree he is an 8, so for me he is s the guy if he goes to a dominant team, he is s gonna look the business at 6, if he goes to arsenal, he will end up an 8, we have at least 2 better 8s in our club and then your in the conversation is he a better 8 than Sanson, I'm not sure he is, chuck is ahead of him already as an 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 35 minutes ago, pete101 said: chuck is ahead of him already as an 8 Based on what? Hype? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete101 Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 57 minutes ago, Kiwivillan said: Based on what? Hype? He is better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villanmac Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 On 11/02/2022 at 19:08, Delphinho123 said: Has he ever been able to recreate that brief form after project restart? And also, was his form THAT good in that period or was it a case of teams being sluggish after a long break? He’ll be gone in the Summer I’m afraid and quite frankly, if we can get anywhere near £30m for him with his contract situation, I think we’ve done well. He’s not a bad player but he just isn’t kicking on at all and I don’t think he has the pace and athleticism to play as an 8. More of a case of Deano going a lot more defensive during that period imo. There was lot more focus on us getting players behind the ball and less bombing forward. We had Konsa at right back for some of the games even. Was a lot harder for teams to get in behind and he came into his own having more of the opposition's play in front of him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avfc1982am Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 5 hours ago, pete101 said: He is better Don't be silly. Carney has a handful of minutes at PL level, Luiz has 3 years and international caps. Lay off the Guinness 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 For me, this guy is a major problem. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 Get rid. Talent is there but no urgency no spark no drive. Passive lazy casual passes that go nowhere. Not a front foot player. Actually coward passes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CVByrne Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, bobzy said: For me, this guy is a major problem. He is like half the rest of the team, just not good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grobs Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 To put it into perspective, joelinton is a striker that plays in centre midfield and he looked 10x the player today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 Just now, CVByrne said: He is like half the rest of the team, just not good enough. I disagree - I think we've got a good side who didn't play well today. But I don't know what Luiz brings to the table. It isn't great tackling or great usage of the ball or taking the ball from defence and getting us up the pitch or even good set pieces. What does he bring? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozvillafan Posted February 13, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted February 13, 2022 He's simply not a defensive midfielder and in the format our manager is trying to play, we need one. He was shocking today in every facet. Dead ball, passing, tackling - you name it. I've never seen a better advertisement for Bissouma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedClaretAndBlue Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 Maybe we made an error not accepting those £30m+ bids. Maybe we would have if we got Bissouma in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 11 hours ago, pete101 said: chuck is ahead of him already as an 8 That's news to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 trash. overrated player, weak, slow, not athletic, dallies on the ball, i really dont think he offers much. he is the epitome of a nothing player imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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