GingerCollins29 Posted December 27, 2021 Share Posted December 27, 2021 Absolutely class player. Average game yesterday. End of story 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rightdm00 Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Played like he had Mings on his left shoulder. Needed to raise his game. Went missing for me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Afro Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 I don’t get the Konsa love in. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t think he is a problem and there are much bigger issues elsewhere that need addressing first but I don’t think he is anywhere near as good as other fans make him out. If we sign a new centre back it’s him that will make way not Mings. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farlz Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Feel like he’s having a pretty average/poor season. He does a terrible job of showing how much he’s supposedly better than Mings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, M_Afro said: I don’t get the Konsa love in. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t think he is a problem and there are much bigger issues elsewhere that need addressing first but I don’t think he is anywhere near as good as other fans make him out. If we sign a new centre back it’s him that will make way not Mings. Konsa is a good defender but to some he is brilliant because he is not Mings. Its very strange Edited January 3, 2022 by Zatman 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted January 3, 2022 Author Share Posted January 3, 2022 (edited) He is clearly a very good player, but......he only seems to be able to really reach those high levels when he has a more senior CB next to him who he can listen to/take instructions from (ie: Mings), Hause obviously isnt that more senior/talking/leader type to seem to get the best out of Konsa. Im not trying to be negative, but its clear he plays better when he has someone like Mings next to him, who is a talker, likes firing out instructions etc, and konsa knows Mings will be behind him sweeping up most of the time if required (or visa versa with Konsa clearing up behind Mings), doesnt seemt to work so well with a defender on the "same level" in terms of leadership etc. Edited January 3, 2022 by MaVilla 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ozvillafan Posted January 3, 2022 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted January 3, 2022 He seems to stand in very good positions. And that's the problem. He stands in good positions Take Brentford's first goal, for example. They have managed to play themselves down our left for the first time all match. Hause is scrambling to cover Targett so Konsa drops into the box.... ... where he stands, marking nobody. As he sees the shot coming, he drops to 1 knee. Surely closing down and "double teaming" is the better option there rather than passively occupying a space. He's not to blame for the goal - but he could have done more to prevent it. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Afro Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 8 hours ago, ozvillafan said: He seems to stand in very good positions. And that's the problem. He stands in good positions Take Brentford's first goal, for example. They have managed to play themselves down our left for the first time all match. Hause is scrambling to cover Targett so Konsa drops into the box.... ... where he stands, marking nobody. As he sees the shot coming, he drops to 1 knee. Surely closing down and "double teaming" is the better option there rather than passively occupying a space. He's not to blame for the goal - but he could have done more to prevent it. Nail on head. It happens a lot. He should 100% have been closing down the shot not holding his position. He does it often and it drives me mad. The Leicester goal is another example. I’m sure it’s one of the reasons he doesn’t get dribbled past too often because he does not commit to a challenge. To be fair to him, Targett, Ramsey and Hause had all messed up before it got to that point! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MentalM Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 8 hours ago, MaVilla said: He is clearly a very good player, but......he only seems to be able to really reach those high levels when he has a more senior CB next to him who he can listen to/take instructions from (ie: Mings), Hause obviously isnt that more senior/talking/leader type to seem to get the best out of Konsa. Im not trying to be negative, but its clear he plays better when he has someone like Mings next to him, who is a talker, likes firing out instructions etc, and konsa knows Mings will be behind him sweeping up most of the time if required (or visa versa with Konsa clearing up behind Mings), doesnt seemt to work so well with a defender on the "same level" in terms of leadership etc. This is key, and is what all of our defenders do. Not only Konsa, Cash and Targett as well. Without Mings we look shaky 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JPJCB Posted January 3, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 3, 2022 I’ve said before that mings and konsa make a good partnership because one is aggressive (mings) and the other more passive (konsa) in the classic vidic/Ferdinand type combination mings gets criticised a lot because his more aggressive play can lead to more obvious errors but yesterday we saw the value he adds. Without him we’re too passive in defence. Konsa should have been much quicker closing down the scorer of Brentford’s first goal 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indigo Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 12 hours ago, M_Afro said: I’m sure it’s one of the reasons he doesn’t get dribbled past too often because he does not commit to a challenge. Yep. The stat is definitely less impressive when put into further context. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 I thought his post match interview was a bit half soaked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 On 27/12/2021 at 10:06, Tomaszk said: You want fans to criticize players? Thought Konsa was pretty good tbh. Spot on. Konsa getting hate for Mings mistakes,, unbelievable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozvillafan Posted January 5, 2022 VT Supporter Share Posted January 5, 2022 1 hour ago, sheepyvillian said: Spot on. Konsa getting hate for Mings mistakes,, unbelievable. I know what you mean. It wasn't Konsa's fault that Mings was suspended.... ...and that showed him up for being half the player people think he is. That Mings! *shakes fist* 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WallisFrizz Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 On 03/01/2022 at 00:30, ozvillafan said: He seems to stand in very good positions. And that's the problem. He stands in good positions Take Brentford's first goal, for example. They have managed to play themselves down our left for the first time all match. Hause is scrambling to cover Targett so Konsa drops into the box.... ... where he stands, marking nobody. As he sees the shot coming, he drops to 1 knee. Surely closing down and "double teaming" is the better option there rather than passively occupying a space. He's not to blame for the goal - but he could have done more to prevent it. Wonder if he was doing exactly what he is told to do on the training ground. No idea, but what you’ve described sounds like what he always does and quite often gets the block/interception in. I agree with others that he and Mings compliment each other. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indigo Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 12 hours ago, sheepyvillian said: Spot on. Konsa getting hate for Mings mistakes,, unbelievable. ...what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam-AVFC Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 8 minutes ago, Indigo said: ...what? In this post-satire world I find it's best to assume irony for the sake of your mental wellbeing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Afro Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 Caught ball watching again for the goal. Don’t attack the ball and then wave my arms trying to blame someone else. Really has to be more aggressive in his play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reivax_Villa Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 We need two new CB’s Konsa needs a challenged 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indigo Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 1 hour ago, M_Afro said: Caught ball watching again for the goal. Don’t attack the ball and then wave my arms trying to blame someone else. Really has to be more aggressive in his play. Yeah, strange behaviour. Mings is with Varane and the ball is crossed over both of them, Konsa has full view of McTominay's run but reacts too late and proceeds to have a go at Mings about it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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