sharkyvilla Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 3 hours ago, danceoftheshamen said: I could never fathom how such a big guy was so useless in the air tbh. Always find it bizarre how we have/had so many big players none of whom seemed able to guide a basic header on target from a corner!? I include in that Mings, Davis, Wesley, Konsa, Hause (although he did finally get a rather good one at Old Trafford of course) etc Surely we should've had far more headed goals with players like that? PL centre halves are physical specimens themselves and found Wes quite easy to bully, knowing he would go down easily and he hadn't quite got the culture of English football yet. There had been slight improvement before his injury in the physical aspect so who knows with another 6 months he could have started to trouble defenders a bit more. We'll never know now though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woody1000 Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 2 hours ago, briny_ear said: You know it’s a quiet time when Wesley is trending top of the Villatalk list! Yeah but he was world class for an hour against Burnley… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedClaretAndBlue Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 We got properly shafted for that fee we paid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 36 minutes ago, BleedClaretAndBlue said: We got properly shafted for that fee we paid We had to spend big to get a work permit, I think the club knew that He wasnt even the worst striker we signed that season from the Belgian League Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarryOnVilla Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 10 minutes ago, Zatman said: We had to spend big to get a work permit, I think the club knew that He wasnt even the worst striker we signed that season from the Belgian League 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david-avfc Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 4 hours ago, danceoftheshamen said: I could never fathom how such a big guy was so useless in the air tbh. Always find it bizarre how we have/had so many big players none of whom seemed able to guide a basic header on target from a corner!? I include in that Mings, Davis, Wesley, Konsa, Hause (although he did finally get a rather good one at Old Trafford of course) etc Surely we should've had far more headed goals with players like that? I remember watching his debut in the annual Walsall friendly - His first touch was from a typical long ball smash up the field and from his attempt to chest it down the ball bounced about 5 or 10 yards back in the direction it came from. I had my doubts from literally that first second. Feels like he was scouted off a database because he never looked natural and surely that would have been picked up on if we’d properly looked at him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.Bear Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 Signings like this just baffle me. Signing a striker from one of the "lesser" leagues is always a risk even when they have scored a bucketload. Wesley hadnt done that so you assumed the scouts had seen something his record didnt display. No, he was useless. However it could forgiven as a "gamble" if it was a free or very cheap transfer. But no, he cost a fortune. The injury was horrible luck of course but the writing was already on the wall. One of Villa's worst Premier League signings. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villatillidie95 Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 coming up to about the 3 year mark when we had signed this guy and the optimism was really high because we were back in the prem and the thought of having a brazillian player leading the lkine being the record signing was very exciting compared to the last few years of slog and toil. I think his moment has passed here unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Steve Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 It's what happens when you let Richard Madeley have money to spend. Thank God we moved on from the likes of Suso. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughable Chimp Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 (edited) Realize I might be more harsh on him than most because I happened to miss his "brilliant performances". Missed the Everton game entirely and missed the first half of the Burnley game. Did catch the Norwich game but despite having 2 goals and 1 assist, thought he kind of lucked into all of them. 1st goal was Norwich defender did a massive brainfart and left him with the ball at his feet in front of the 6 yard box. 2nd goal got put on a plate for him for a tap in, but I'll give him credit for getting into that position. The assist was a simple backwards pass to Douglas Luiz who would proceed to curl it from range. Then there was that weak penalty. Speaking of which, that was another thing that bothered me about him. All his shots lacked power. It was such a weird thing, I've never seen a striker have such a weak shot on them. Maybe he could've been good had he been given more time, but I genuinely thought he was largely terrible in almost every facet of play you'd want from a striker based on what he was able to show for us. Edited June 5, 2022 by Laughable Chimp 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Laughable Chimp said: Realize I might be more harsh on him than most because I happened to miss his "brilliant performances". Missed the Everton game entirely and missed the first half of the Burnley game. Did catch the Norwich game but despite having 2 goals and 1 assist, thought he kind of lucked into all of them. 1st goal was Norwich defender did a massive brainfart and left him with the ball at his feet in front of the 6 yard box. 2nd goal got put on a plate for him for a tap in, but I'll give him credit for getting into that position. The assist was a simple backwards pass to Douglas Luiz who would proceed to curl it from range. Then there was that weak penalty. Speaking of which, that was another thing that bothered me about him. All his shots lacked power. It was such a weird thing, I've never seen a striker have such a weak shot on them. Maybe he could've been good had he been given more time, but I genuinely thought he was largely terrible in almost every facet of play you'd want from a striker based on what he was able to show for us. All I really remember about him is that he fell over a lot. Only needed an opposition player to come within a few centimetres of him and over he went. Obviously that is a totally warped and unfair memory but it is the one strong recollection I have of his few games for us. Edited June 5, 2022 by briny_ear 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 He's going to come back and be a revelation. 15+ goals for big wes next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 5 hours ago, sharkyvilla said: PL centre halves are physical specimens themselves and found Wes quite easy to bully, knowing he would go down easily and he hadn't quite got the culture of English football yet. There had been slight improvement before his injury in the physical aspect so who knows with another 6 months he could have started to trouble defenders a bit more. We'll never know now though. Apart from Yerry Mina who for some reason big Wes seemed to not like from the get go. Wes schooled him and won the physical battle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 Any particular reason why Wesley is a hot topic today? We desperately need some news don't we? Even a kit leak would do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 He wasn’t the best and obviously we paid way to much for him. But is it fair to see he contributed to at least 3 points in a season we stayed up by a point? (Or goals difference, I can’t remember). So as far as I’m concerned he played his part. Good Luck to him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post STO Posted June 5, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 5, 2022 I think he deserves a bit more respect than he's getting. He was Champions League with his club before he came to Villa. He wasn't quite good enough for us but didn't shirk and scored a few goals before that animal, Ben Mee completely did him with a disgusting scissor tackle, which has essentially ended Wesley's career in the top level of football. The victim here is Wesley. The culprit might be a little bit of Suso, but it most certainly is the animal named Mee. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 The whole champs league thing means nothing. There's a lot of poor to average teams that get to play in that competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 Seems Inter are ready to send him back when the transfer window reopens and want to sign 2 strikers Hard to find a full translation but seems he isnt ready for fulltime football yet and was put on a special training program but hasnt worked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 14 hours ago, R.Bear said: Signings like this just baffle me. Signing a striker from one of the "lesser" leagues is always a risk even when they have scored a bucketload. Wesley hadnt done that so you assumed the scouts had seen something his record didnt display. No, he was useless. However it could forgiven as a "gamble" if it was a free or very cheap transfer. But no, he cost a fortune. The injury was horrible luck of course but the writing was already on the wall. One of Villa's worst Premier League signings. I think thats massively harsh. Wesley scored goals in two games that won us the games (everton and norwich) and we stayed up by a point. That alone is worth a hell of a lot more than 22m. He has been a flop and not good. Bit he contributed more than samatta did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DaveAV1 Posted June 6, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 6, 2022 (edited) There’s a lot of 20:20 vision in hindsight here. When Wesley started with us I was reminded of the slow start that Benteke made for us and so hoped Wes would settle in similarly. He scored 5 goals for us and was playing really well in the Burnley game until that tackle. We’ll never know what might have been now but whilst he never really looked amazing he was far from terrible. He looked like a young man settling into a new team, in a country thousands of miles from home. Massive cultural differences and a new language to learn. people saying they could see from his first touch that he want good enough and with the benefit of hindsight picking out all his weaknesses is a little unfair. Perhaps his signing was a mistake but we must remember where, we as s club, were at the time and where he was too. Good luck to the lad, I hope he can still have a football career somewhere, even if it looks unlikely here. Edited June 6, 2022 by DaveAV1 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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