samjp26 Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 23 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: No agenda, none whatsoever.... 2 direct mistakes = 2 goals conceded because of Mings. I’m also sick of the way he makes a mistake and then tried to be a **** hero. Every. Single. Time. Just stick to your role and do it well, you’re a **** defender. Honestly the guy costs us so much, for all his “solid defending” he makes too many mistakes over and over again. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 Their CB gets a free header in the 6 yard box and Mings will be blamed for a weak clearance off balance 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, samjp26 said: 2 direct mistakes = 2 goals conceded because of Mings. I’m also sick of the way he makes a mistake and then tried to be a **** hero. Every. Single. Time. Just stick to your role and do it well, you’re a **** defender. Honestly the guy costs us so much, for all his “solid defending” he makes too many mistakes over and over again. How was the 3rd his mistake? He was off balance and had to stab at it. Blame the bloke who let their CB have a free header maybe?’ and the 2nd he has it covered until he’s smashed into by his own player agenda, what agenda? Edited February 9, 2022 by StefanAVFC 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 I’m losing my mind with all the blind support he gets. I’m not getting into a scapegoat, other players are also shit convo, we are talking here about our captain who makes a goal conceding mistake once every two games. He missed two chances today and was just all over the **** place. If we actually want to progress we need to improve on both him AND Konsa, but more urgently Mings. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Afro Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 Mings was really good and really bad! Needs to be better. Still much better than Konsa but not good enough at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delphinho123 Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 I’ve been a staunch defender of his for the most part but seriously, how many mistakes is it now? This can’t go on. It just can’t. It’s all well and good doing something brilliant and heroic but it’s of no use to the team if you’re costing us a goal every 3 games with a mistake. I like him, I like his leadership, but I think he probably needs to be replaced in the Summer with someone who doesn’t make mistakes so often. They may not even be as good overall, but just to have someone who isn’t costing us goals so often will be of greater benefit to us. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 Just now, Spoony said: I’m losing my mind with all the blind support he gets. I’m not getting into a scapegoat, other players are also shit convo, we are talking here about our captain who makes a goal conceding mistake once every two games. He missed two chances today and was just all over the **** place. If we actually want to progress we need to improve on both him AND Konsa, but more urgently Mings. I don't think there's much blind support. He definitely makes mistakes (which is why he's not at a better club), but he's also a good defender. I find it hard to pin much blame on him for any of their goals, even though he was 'there'. As I said, maybe the third... but then he also saved a goal on the line just before that so maybe it evens out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrenchVillaLova Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 I like him but if we're serious about competing for Europe, he needs replacing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshVilla Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 The amount of times he was marking thin air in the box from their corners was shocking. Truly awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, Spoony said: we are talking here about our captain who makes a goal conceding mistake once every two games. Apart from he doesn't 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 1 minute ago, bobzy said: I don't think there's much blind support. He definitely makes mistakes (which is why he's not at a better club), but he's also a good defender. I find it hard to pin much blame on him for any of their goals, even though he was 'there'. As I said, maybe the third... but then he also saved a goal on the line just before that so maybe it evens out. Exactly right. People see him in the vicinity of a goal and automatically blame him which makes others defend him even more staunchly. He wasn’t at fault for any of the goals. Others were more at fault easily. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LondonLax Posted February 9, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 9, 2022 For their third goal it felt like he was the only one defending. He’d blocked and defended and cleared one off the line only to finally miss-kick a clearance off balance while the rest of our defence was standing and watching the show. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 6 minutes ago, StefanAVFC said: Their CB gets a free header in the 6 yard box and Mings will be blamed for a weak clearance off balance Konsa was ball-watching and should have got in front of Llorente, that's the mistake there...not the fact that Mings didn't boot a point blank shot into row Z. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 1 minute ago, StefanAVFC said: Exactly right. People see him in the vicinity of a goal and automatically blame him which makes others defend him even more staunchly. He wasn’t at fault for any of the goals. Others were more at fault easily. There's been times recently where I genuinely don't think some people understand the concept of marking and losing a man, they just blame mings One of them is ezri konsa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khizzy Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 I'd like us to go for an upgrade on him and/or Konsa in the summer. We have to do better if we're to progress. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aston_Villan4 Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 9 minutes ago, Spoony said: I’m losing my mind with all the blind support he gets. I’m not getting into a scapegoat, other players are also shit convo, we are talking here about our captain who makes a goal conceding mistake once every two games. He missed two chances today and was just all over the **** place. If we actually want to progress we need to improve on both him AND Konsa, but more urgently Mings. He makes a goal conceding mistake every 2 games? That's news to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermon Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 Pathetic performance from Mings, shame we don't have any better to replace him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 11 minutes ago, Spoony said: I’m losing my mind with all the blind support he gets. I’m not getting into a scapegoat, other players are also shit convo, we are talking here about our captain who makes a goal conceding mistake once every two games. He missed two chances today and was just all over the **** place. If we actually want to progress we need to improve on both him AND Konsa, but more urgently Mings. The only agenda here is Mings supporters. Never known such blind loyalty to a defender as costly. Yes he was great in the play offs. Yes he's done a decent job on the whole. But he ain't good enough for Aston Villa. He's good enough for the shitshow and rebuild we've been but in the last 20 years he's not even in the good category. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 18 minutes ago, samjp26 said: 2 direct mistakes = 2 goals conceded because of Mings. I’m also sick of the way he makes a mistake and then tried to be a **** hero. Every. Single. Time. Just stick to your role and do it well, you’re a **** defender. Honestly the guy costs us so much, for all his “solid defending” he makes too many mistakes over and over again. I'm pretty sure deep down he knows he's playing above his true level. And he's desperate to show he is cut out for this level, too desperate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grobs Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 Mings is comfortably our worst player. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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